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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:38 PM
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What are the chances today's GOP will regroup to represent something almost human??
I'm looking forward to watching the Republican party try to rebuild itself.

Conservatives have used warmongers and religious fundies for their votes, only to be undone by the monsters they created.

Which faction will win the war for the party? Do you see any transformational leaders on their horizon?
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JJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:40 PM
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1. 0.0000000000000000000000001%
they will go further into psycho territory.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:41 PM
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2. I'm not holding my breath. The repukes will claim that McBush wasn't being
right wing enough.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:43 PM
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5. They've been doing that for a while now
"Bush's big problem is that he's not conservative enough" - true quote when I was down in Freeperville, NC in 2004.

I think Peggy Noonan even referred to him as a liberal a few years ago.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:41 PM
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3. If the Dems get too smug with power and believe they cannot be put out,
then they (Republicans) will be back.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:42 PM
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4. I don't see it happening before 2012
McCain is set up now to take the fall because he was not a "true" movement conservative.

They'll nominate Sarah Palin, or a similar "movement" conservative, and get swamped in a landslide in 2012 - only then, will it start to sink in that they need to become a more moderate party and that the extremists are dragging them down. Hopefully, it won't sink in by 2016 and we can get another Democrat in there after Obama.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:44 PM
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6. Not likely
What is likely is that they will try to destroy an Obama presidency, much like they did Clinton.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:49 PM
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10. What they did to Clinton will pale in comparison to what they will try to do to Obama.
However, I also think it will be much more difficult. I may get flamed for this, but I believe Obama is a better man in many regards.

Earlier today someone posted that there is already a website to collect sigs to impeach Obama. I couldn't decide if I should laugh or cry at reading that.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:12 PM
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26. Cry
Obama is a better man, and that means they will be even more ferocious.

All I can say is I will fight for Obama. I don't believe he'll let us down.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:06 PM
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21. To be fair, Clinton didn't do himself any favors by fucking an intern in the oval office then
lying about it.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:10 PM
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23. He didn't, actaully
she sucked him off.

Still, to be fair the pubbies spent $70M going after him. And that after he worked with them for what was presumed to be the best for the country.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:56 PM
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32. Well, some people consider oral sex to be sex. It wasn't a smart move on Clinton's part.
If you KNOW the pukes are out to get you, don't give them free ammo.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:02 PM
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33. So
Do you think they'll be nice to Obama, or not? He's gonna end the war and cost them billions in profits. He's gonna tax the rich, like Clinton did. They are gonna be so pissed right from the get go. Delay told them that they would crush the democratic party and here we are back in their faces.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:11 PM
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35. Of course they're not going to be nice to him.
They're going to look for every opportunity to destroy him. Here's hoping Obama doesn't do something incredibly stupid and give them something they can actually work with.
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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:45 PM
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7. They need to return to a preponderance of aged, milquetoast
white guys with molded hair and a southern accent. That should work.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:47 PM
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8. Read today's Krugman column from the NYT.
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 08:48 PM by longship
Krugman on the future of the GOP post 11/5/08 (link to previous DU thread--please R&K)

Here's link to Krugman's NYT Op-Ed cited: The Republican Rump







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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:55 PM
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18. Wow, guess we'll have to hold onto our seats (in more ways than one)!
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:48 PM
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9. Zero. The Christian Phalangists have tasted blood.
You can't negotiate with terrorists.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:49 PM
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11. Sooner or later
the republican party will either accomplish this or dissolve. It will probably get both smaller and uglier first. I am not sure that they have reached the point of capitulation, we won't know for weeks, if not months. I also would not be surprised to see a solid third party, with a more libertarian lean, arise from this defeat.

I am predicting that Parah Salin is first to throw Johnny Mac under the bus. She will beat him to the punch by several hours, perhaps by noon wednesday.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:49 PM
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12. Neocons are not going away. They bred during the Clinton years..multiplying..spreading their cancer
They will do the same again.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:46 PM
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31. I'm not so sure about that.
The current financial crisis may be taken as proof that their policies just don't work, at least to the better educated among them.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 08:03 AM
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36. Their base is much more concerned about abortion and Jesus than their bank accounts.
Muslims, terrorists, being "Number One!" will motivate the Neocons more than making the intellectual "leap" that their policies are detrimental to the country and the world.
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AlabamaBrightBlueDot Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:50 PM
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13. Go to freeperville and check out the compassion....
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 08:51 PM by Mhegwood3
My guess is when hell freezes over
edit for clarity
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:51 PM
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14. 0.
This has been another episode of Simple Answers To Simple Questions.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:52 PM
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15. Ask Stephen Hawking
about the same as those of a quantum singularity suddenly expanding into a black hole that will suck all matter in the universe into it in a split second. Tonight.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:52 PM
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16. Sarah Palin, Joe the Plumber & Hank Williams Junior
Some future they got there.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:52 PM
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17. In the short run, Krugman is probably right and they will become a rump
In the longer run, they will likely be forced back to the center, though it may take a minimum of four years. The Republican Party has been around for nearly 150 years. Unlike the Federalists and Whigs, it is too established to wither away.

If the Republicans do wither away, we will then split into a left party and a center party.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:01 PM
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19. Unfortunately, the Fundies have the numbers
and the neocon elements can probably deal with them since they are prone to violence and xenophobia, which can be used to keep the military industrial machines gears turning.

I think the moneychangers are stuck with an unmanageable mob if they stay, are unwelcome among the masses because they could care less about fiscal conservatism or the ideas surrounding that school of thought, and will have to eventually abandon ship leaving the GOP with an average IQ of 35.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:02 PM
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20. There is zero possibility of moderation
That would leave a big chunk of the country unrepresented.

So they can only get crazier... a regional extremist party.
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:08 PM
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22. Covered already in some will-they-split posts, but I think the answer is: Only if they split
into 2 parties - the old-school/fiscal conservative/socially moderate 'original' Republican Party, and the nutcase-fundamentalist-racist-far-right party.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:10 PM
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24. It will change: to be dominated more by the fundamentalist-evangelical, flag
waving, gay-hating factions.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:10 PM
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25. They will end up splitting into three groups...
#1) the Moderaters, the Eisenhower Republicans... the only decent ones existing (very small)

#2) the NeoCon theives

#3) The Religious Reich...


stand back, get the popcorn and watch 2 and 3 go after 1, then when they are destroyed.. watch 2 and 3 eat each other
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:21 PM
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27. About the same as the odds of a troop of baboons in the Kalahari desert
staging "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" one day instead of foraging, preening, etc.
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:23 PM
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28. Actually, pretty good...the humiliation of this defeat will force them towards reality....
But I don't think they'll recover fully until 2016.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:32 PM
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29. Republicans are splitting into 3 parts,
1) the neocons, 2) the theocons and 3) moderate conservatives.

The latter are leaving the party in droves, even endorsing Obama.

The neocons and theocons will still try to dominate the country and by extension the whole world. In the process, they'll devour each other because there is no unifying leader to bring them together again after the failure of John McCain's laughable campaign.


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eugeneliberal Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:38 PM
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30. Of course they will, then morph again
It's a cyclical problem. The party will try and find a way to combat us, they'll come at us again in the original W style...it won't be compassionate conservative next time, but it'll have to be the same bull crap lies, then when they get in power it'll be Reaganomics III. The key is to get the country healthy enough to withstand the onslaught. The good news is that I think it'll be at least 12 years until they have a realistic shot at fooling enough of the public.
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PatriotGames Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:08 PM
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34. Nope. Sorry. No chance,
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