A freeper type my wife works with...

[niceypoo]

...was pacing back and forth at her work ranting and raging that Obama, "hasn't done anything since being elected president!"

So my wife tells him, "Um, he won't be president for two more months."

With that he stopped to think for a moment, then walked away sulking and red faced.

Oh my god, how we ever lost past elections against these folks is beyond me!

[WinkyDink]

1. Even WERE he President, it's been TWENTY FRICKIN' DAYS! Some people don't deserve oxygen.

[OneGrassRoot]

56. Oooooh, I like that phrase. "don't deserve oxygen"

I'm gonna use that one. ;)

[rurallib]

2. skimming the channels Saturday night I heard the same thing from

some talking head. I think it may have been Fux Newsie, not sure. Anyway, this guy was going off on Obama having been elected 3 weeks ago and he hasn't even started to do anything yet.

[tsuki]

26. Check this:

http://www.crooksandliars.com

The Laugh-In Group

[yardwork]

59. And it's not even true. Obama has done a lot since election day.

He's made a number of key cabinet positions and done a great deal of work toward the transition.

[Justyce]

3. I would've added

so I think it's really Bush you're angry with. Their stupidity never ceases to amaze me.

And someone needs to let Sean Hannity know Obama's not president yet, too, the dumbass...

[Cheap_Trick]

37. don't forget Oxyrush. as much as we'd all like to....

[patrice]

4. That is their hallmark.

With the exception of The Bible, Almost everything that comes from the RW grassroots comes from someone who only just started recently to pay any personal attention whatsoever to whatever it is that they are talking about: politics, economics, social issues, philosophy, ecology . . . You name it. I've been noticing this for quite a while; everything they say and do is characteristic of someone with relatively small and brief acquaintence with whatever the subject matter is.

[niceypoo]

5. Thinking in talking points...

...and only contemplating as an after-thought

[patrice]

19. Right! NO contemplation, not an "inch" of depth or breadth. Just echoes from elsewhere.

AND they're genuinely proud of it, e.g. Sarah Palin. That's an important thing to get into our heads: they are proud of their ignorance. It is a badge of "genuine-ness" to them. I guess because it is spontaneous. There's also something very much about impulse in all of this, impulse and impulsiveness. Palin made me think about this trait when she said some stuff about "doors", not wanting to miss any "doors" . . . WTF???

ANY???

doors.

[AllentownJake]

15. Their Bible Scholarship isn't usually that much better

Generally consists of Rick Warren, the Left Behind Books, and Max Lucado...sometimes the Case for Christ is thrown in for good measure.

Augustine, Luther, Calvin, C.S. Lewis or other intelligent Christian Thinkers these people have never heard of. They don't even understand the theological reasoning and debates in their faith.

Oh yeah and a whole bunch of them believe there in cute little Angels watching over them. No Angel in the Bible is what I would classify as cute

[Submariner]

23. Sister Perpetual Agony showed me angel pictures and they were cute

Not a "Hottie" like this one as best I can recall that I'd want to.....never mind, got off track, .....but they were cuties. The Nuns didn't show us the Exorcist Satan type bad angel. Special effects sucked back then anyway.

[AllentownJake]

27. Most Angels in the Bible

Were there to either warn people God was about to destroy something, or Destroy it themselves.

There were a few you are special angels but their description wasn't exactly cute.

[TrogL]

42. What's with the wings?

I'm going to take a wild guess at her weight as 100 lb. She's gonna need three times the wingspread to support that. Think hang glider.

Plus, I don't remember day-to-day type angels having wings.

[awoke_in_2003]

48. If I could get things like that...

descending on my be in the middle of the night, I just might start believing again :)

[Puzzler]

63. I'm pretty sure that's a movie still...

... from "Angels in America". The angel is played by Emma Thompson.

[patrice]

25. No dis-respect meant toward The Bible. You're right, really.

And THAT's one of the most frustrating things about them. They allude to Values that I CARE about, but they haven't thought about them enough to even begin to remove "the beam" from their own eye and that "beam" is something with which whole classes of American culture are overwhelmed, i.e. their own flawed-ness. So we have two extremes in the spectrum of Americans: those who think they are so perfect that they have a responsibility to MAKE everyone else just like them and those who think that they are so im-perfect that they give up on solutions and just drift.

This absolute perfection has made RW grassroots soooooooooooooo externally directed (evangelism!!!) that they don't even notice their own habitual blaspheming and they seem to have forgotten that there even is a NT with a single commandment: Love.

These people are f-ing DRUNK, f-ing HIGH, as stoned as it gets on any kind of psychotropic substance and I mean that literally.

THEY ARE STONED ON THEMSELVES

That's why it isn't necessary for them to know anything about anything.

[AllentownJake]

30. The Gospel of Prosperity

I'm doing good because God loves me your doing bad because you did something wrong.

An idea that the Bible rejects in both the Old and New Testament.

God serves them, they do not serve God.

[TrogL]

43. aka Calvinism or "word faith"

[patrice]

50. Oh, I like that very much "God serves them, they do not serve God."

A good thing for me to keep in mind at all times, but especially if you're an issues activist. You see people get burnt out when things don't go as they hope/want them to go, invested tooooo much in the outcomes of what we are doing and not enough in the doing itself.

[Gman]

6. We lost to them because, unfortunately, they can vote

and they're real easy to get stirred up to go vote because they're not real bright. The Roves of the world know this.

[stuntcat]

17. seriously

some people's votes should only count for 1/2 or 1/3. I know this is un-democratic of me to say but with so many of our citizens thinking the world was created in 7 days.. the fact that Palin even made it as far as she did.. I am ashamed about some of my fellow American consumers getting to decide the future for the whole fricking world :mad:

[patrice]

28. I think "what would be sooooo horrible about a civic test for voting"?

I know, I know . . . .

One alternative would be to do what Oregon does: they send everyone a book with all of the candidates and their platforms and all of the ballot initiatives and everything. They get their books several weeks in advance, so they can study up and answer their own questions if they want to, then they mark their own ballots in the privacy of their own homes. I like this because it removes voters at least a little bit from the public pressure cooker known as politics.

[xxqqqzme]

36. Just an 'agree' 'disagree' type test on the

first 10 amendments would probably do it. That separation of church & state is a real wrinkle for them.

[Gman]

39. In my perfect world

a not graduating from high school gets 1/2 vote, high school graduate gets 1 vote, some bachelor degrees get 1 1/2 votes, others (like political science or even business administration) get 2 votes, Masters 3 votes, PhD 4 votes

we can work out the particulars.

[FlaGranny]

53. That would have

given my parents one total vote between them. Dad was born in the 1890's, mother in 1900's. They both never graduated grammar school. They were removed from school at about the age of 12 and put to work. Intelligent folks who raised intelligent children and Democrats to the core. No religion in my household as I was growing up. Dad was completely turned off by the "hell and damnation" attitude of HIS parents. We grew up in that household extremely happy, well-adjusted, healthy, and liberal. There are some college grads that I know that don't deserve a half vote. So, Gman, your perfect world is not MY perfect world. ;-)

[Gman]

54. I'm not talking about back then because

they didn't have the same opportunities we have now. I'm talking about this modern 21st century world where literally anyone can now be president of this country. However, I believe I stole my perfect world from John Locke although I can't be sure that's the first place I read what I posted. The notion of the weight of someone's vote based on the amount of education of the voter dates back to at least the 1800's.

And yes, it is admittedly a VERY elitist notion.

[TheCowsCameHome]

7. Some idiot's LTTE to my local paper blames O for the stock market slide - read:

Absolutely unreal, I tell ya..........

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081124/OPINION/811240322

[niceypoo]

8. Hannity and Dick Morris were going on and on about that the other night

When Alan Colmes challenged Morris on it, Morris got all red in the face, you could tell he didn't even believe his own claims, was just saying it to be an asshat. Yet some people soak this crap up like a sponge and hang on their every word.

[AnneD]

11. And this.....

is what passed for intelligent conversation on current events:eyes:

We are so screwed. Do these people have some sort of evolutionary advantage I am unaware of?

[Cosmocat]

47. Hit them with gas prices ...

If they want to believe in all this voodoo based assumption that the stock market it dropping cause of O, then the voodoo applies to gas prices dropping, too ...

[SpiralHawk]

10. Every republicon kool-aid guzzler accepts this 'truthiness' from their chickenhawk propagandists

[Ganja Ninja]

9. He's not even a Senator right now.

He holds no office at all at the moment. :crazy: In fact he's unemployed to boot.

He's really just plain old John Q Citizen until he takes the oath.

[JuniperLea]

41. Office of the President Elect is an actual office... President Elect an actual position...

I bet it doesn't pay well:) I'm pretty sure they made this an official office so they could give that person a security clearance for information obtained during the transition.

[Ganja Ninja]

45. Technically he's not the president elect until after the electoral college

votes in January. Right now he's between jobs.

[JuniperLea]

46. Not so...

He is currently President Elect, and whenever you see him on TV now, he is usually behind a podium with a sign saying so. He is in full transition, and has security clearance of a certain level so he can get information legally intended for the executive branch.

[vademocrat]

49. Electoral College votes in December (12/15 I think...) n/t

[Ganja Ninja]

51. Yes but the vote aren't counted until jan 6th.

From Wikipedia

Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution and the Twelfth and Twentieth Amendments govern the election of the U.S. President. The members of the U.S. Electoral College are elected by the people in November once every four years in a general election; on the Monday after the second Wednesday in December, electors convene in their respective state capitals (and the District of Columbia) and in turn elect the President of the United States. The electoral ballots are counted in a joint session of Congress on January 6 (as required by 3 U.S. Code, Chapter 1), and if the ballots are accepted without objections, the candidate winning at least 270 electoral votes is announced the President-elect by the incumbent Vice President, in his or her capacity as President of the Senate.

[zbdent]

12. didn't he vote November 5th like your wife told him?

[niceypoo]

34. This same guy makes similarly foolish statements about other subjects...

...then loudly blabs them to anyone within earshot. Last winter when it snowed for 45 minutes, he went on and on about how it iron clad proof global warming is a 'hoax.' The guy is a total shallow putz on any and every subject, and loudly so. I told my wife just to start digging for details, which Mr Talking point wont be able to provide. When you dig for details with these folks, they become dumbfounded and storm off in a huff.

[TrogL]

61. Ok, then have him explain my weather

When I moved here in '79 there was always concern about whether the kids would be able to go out for Hallowe'en because there might be a foot of snow on the ground.

I went out last night in shirtsleeves. I bought a new snow shovel and it's still sitting there in its bag. That ain't right.

[Alter Ego]

13. I DEMAND MY PONY

Even if he had already been inaugurated, the idea that he could clean up eight years of Bush in 20 days is laughable. It'll take him at LEAST his first term.

[TrogL]

60. Where's my flying car?

Wasn't that a campaign promise?

[MorningGlow]

14. Rush listener?

I heard a clip of Rushbo ranting about the "Obama recession." Oh REALLY. :eyes:

[a la izquierda]

16. There are a lot of people on DU

who are acting the same way, dontcha think?


On Edit: Not acting like freepers, but acting like this particular person..

[patrice]

21. And your point is? nt

[a la izquierda]

22. My point is wringing their hands and

freaking out and he hasn't even BEEN sworn in yet. I don't love his choices for cabinet positions either, but sheesh, the man's not even president.

Okay, touchy person, go flip out somewhere else.

[patrice]

29. Just checking. Actually, I agree with you, so who's

being "touchy" and flipping out here? All you really needed to do was clarify the post that I replied to, but you went a sentence too far by making accusations against me without checking into what my motive was in asking in the first place, i.e. you freaked out that I asked a question of you.

Blanket statements, from either side of the spectrum around here, promote disunity, while ostensibly promoting unity. I was just seeking a clarification.

If you're experiencing a lot of "touchy" persons, flipping out, may I suggest that you read up on self-fulfilling prophecy?

[a la izquierda]

44. Sorry, sorry...

my bad. THree hours of sleep and entirely too much coffee this morning. My reading comprehension in English is getting bad as a result of months of studying 19th century Spanish written by Franciscan friars.
My apologies:hug:

[wellst0nev0ter]

18. Think Of How Intelligent An Average Person Is

Then imagine half the people in this country being dumber than that. Throw in the assholes, greedheads and racists, then it's a wonder how past elections were so close to begin with.

[slampoet]

35. Actually the quote from George Carlin is "Think of how Stupid the average person is.....

[TrogL]

62. I like Heinlein better

Most people can't think
Most of the rest won't think
Those few who do think don't do it very well

[zipplewrath]

20. He hasn't even been ELECTED yet.

I dropped this one no some right wing nut the other day. He was going on about how much Obama hasn't done yet and what was he waiting for etc. I looked at him and said; "Ya know he ain't president yet right? I mean, he hasn't actually been elected yet". The guy looked very perplexed. It's when I pointed out that Obama will be elected in December when the EC meets and it will be official in January when Congress "accepts" it.

[Jennicut]

24. OMFG, what a dumbass. Lots of people don't realize that however.

Back in the old days, the prez did not take office until...March!!!!

[southernyankeebelle]

31. What is a Freeper

Sorry am not up on alot of saying out in the blog world. So please tell me what a freeper is?

[AllentownJake]

32. A RW republican

the term is derived from Freerepublic which is a RW hate site.

[MaryEllen9399]

33. I went to my in-laws yesterday

and I had to listen to my MIL say how everything said about Palin was made up, that Palin is smarter than Obama, and that Obama did not win in a landslide...LOL but this time I did not stay quiet!

Thank god she does not vote!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

38. On a +ve side "Obama made gas prices go down since he was elected president"

from 2 guys at the gas pump on Saturday!

[4lbs]

40. The freeper types usually vote in EVERY election, every year, even the special elections.

How many here have voted in EVERY single (special) election that they were eligible for?

Since becoming eligibe to vote in 1987, I haven't missed a single election, special election, primary, recall election, etc.

How many non-freeper types can claim that? How about claiming to have voted in at least 90% of the ones you've been eligible for?

[NancyG]

58. EVERY ONE since 1972. nt

[saltpoint]

52. Yeah! That damn lazy Barack Obama. Sitting on his can day after day

instead of doing anything.

Also all these tv doctors. They've been on the tv line-up for DECADES and the same diseases are still out there. Why don't they ever DO anything to stop cancer?

[Zombie2]

55. What a MORAN!!

Wonder what he expected anyway?

[apnu]

57. Yep, the college educated, brokers in my job all now think Obama is President too...

... they keep wondering when they'll get Obama's promised tax shaft and wonder why Stupid Hank is still Treasury Secretary. They're appalled at what he's done and can't understand why Obama hasn't replaced him.

And these guys all have college educations! MBAs in many cases and engineering degrees in a few others!

Wow.