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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 01:35 PM
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I'm not sure why folks are disappointed in Jesse Jr. when even though he is ID'ed as #5. . .
. . .the accusations are hearsay at best. Blagojevich allegedly heard from a 3rd party that Jesse was willing to pay to play. . .this is such a non-story at this point but if folks want to believe the hype so be it.

Fitzgerald is not even interested in pursuing this.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 01:37 PM
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1. So no Fitzmas celebrations then? Well, there's always Fitzoween and Fitzer Sunday to wait for.
:silly:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 01:38 PM
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2. I'm not disappointed yet. I figure I'll take anything Blago has said
with a grain of salt, because the man doesn't appear right in the head to me. Instead of jail, perhaps he needs some psychiatric help.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 01:38 PM
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3. If it were Jesse Jackson SENIOR, would we be celebrating Fitznukah? n/t
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 03:12 PM
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4. Indeed, nothing suggests JJJ himself was involved in any of the talk
Rather an associate, an "emissary", and "the other guy" are referenced in paragraph 115a, all in a parenthetical about a recorded October 31, 2008 conversation. Earlier in the same paragraph, Blago indicates his belief that candidate 5 would raise funds for Blago re-election if he ran. Paragraph 115b then goes on to describe Blago's attempt to shake down Individual D for upfront contributions.
So who is the associate and who is Individual D?

Here is full text of the relevant paragraphs:

a. On December 4, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH spoke to Advisor B and
informed Advisor B that he was giving Senate Candidate 5 greater consideration for the
Senate seat because, among other reasons, if ROD BLAGOJEVICH ran for re-election
Senate Candidate 5 would “raise[] money” for ROD BLAGOJEVICH, although ROD
BLAGOJEVICH said he might “get some (money) up front, maybe” from Senate Candidate
5 to insure Senate Candidate 5 kept his promise about raising money for ROD
BLAGOJEVICH. (In a recorded conversation on October 31, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH
described an earlier approach by an associate of Senate Candidate Five as follows: “We were
approached ‘pay to play.’ That, you know, he’d raise me 500 grand. An emissary came.
Then the other guy would raise a million, if I made him (Senate Candidate 5) a Senator.”)

b. Later on December 4, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH spoke to Fundraiser
A. ROD BLAGOJEVICH stated he was “elevating” Senate Candidate 5 on the list of
candidates for the open Senate seat. ROD BLAGOJEVICH stated he might be able to cut
a deal with Senate Candidate 5 that provided ROD BLAGOJEVICH with something
“tangible up front.” ROD BLAGOJEVICH noted he was going to meet with Senate
Candidate 5 in the next few days. ROD BLAGOJEVICH told Fundraiser A to reach out to
Individual D, an individual who ROD BLAGOJEVICH is attempting to obtain campaign
contributions from and who, based on intercepted phone calls, ROD BLAGOJEVICH
believes to be close to Senate Candidate 5. ROD BLAGOJEVICH told Fundraiser A to tell
Individual D that Senate Candidate 5 was very much a realistic candidate for the open Senate
seat, but that ROD BLAGOJEVICH was getting “a lot of pressure” not to appoint Senate
Candidate 5. ROD BLAGOJEVICH told Fundraiser A to tell Individual D that ROD
BLAGOJEVICH had a problem with Senate Candidate 5 just promising to help ROD
BLAGOJEVICH because ROD BLAGOJEVICH had a prior bad experience with Senate
Candidate 5 not keeping his word. ROD BLAGOJEVICH told Fundraiser A to tell
Individual D that if Senate Candidate 5 is going to be chosen to fill the Senate seat “some of
this stuffs gotta start happening now . . .right now. . . and we gotta see it. You understand?”
ROD BLAGOJEVICH told Fundraiser A that “you gotta be careful how you express that and
assume everybody’s listening, the whole world is listening. You hear me?” ROD
BLAGOJEVICH told Fundraiser A to tell Individual D if there is “tangible political support
(campaign contributions) like you’ve said, start showing us now.” Fundraiser A stated he
will call Individual D on the phone to communicate ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s message. ROD
BLAGOJEVICH responded that “I would do it in person. I would not do it on the phone.”
ROD BLAGOJEVICH told Fundraiser A to communicate the “urgency” of the situation to
Individual D.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 03:18 PM
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5. Indeed, Sir: It Would Surprise Me Greatly If Rep. Jackson Were So Foolish
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 03:33 PM
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6. My money is on Jackson. He'll be fine. n/t
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 03:49 PM
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7. DU is ready to throw Jessie Jackson Jr. under the bus with absolutely NO proof at all
What happens when they go after more Dems based on the same lack of evidence?
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