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Edited on Wed Dec-17-08 04:55 PM by Rabrrrrrr
Most of you who know me here know that I take my Christian faith very seriously and that it is a major influence in my life. Hopefully, all of you who know me here also know that I am a stupid, brainless person.
I grew up in and continue to remain in the United Church of Christ, the denomination that Obama was in when he was at Trinity UCC.
The UCC goes back to the Puritans and the Pilgrims through the Congregational strain of our heritage. Congregational polity and thinking informed the creation, the laws, and the structure of this country. If any one Christian group can lay claim to being the underlying foundation of this country, it's the Congregational Church and the United Church of Christ. Which is not in any way to say that America is designed to be a Christian nation - one of the tenets of the Congregationalists when they landed here was that religion and politics do not mix and should not mix. They weren't perfect at living that creed, but they did pretty well, and it made it's way into church by-laws, city charters, and state constitutions, and eventually the United States Constitution.
The UCC, and its ancestors, created Harvard - the first university in the New World - and later Yale. Our sister denominations the Presbyterians, Episcopalians, Methodists, and Baptists created Brown, Princeton, Duke, Drew, Columbia, and some other of our greatest institutions of higher learning because all these denominations felt that one of Christians' greatest duties is the exercise of the mind, that all Christians should be literate, and that all clergy should be exceptionally well educated, not just in theology, but in arts and sciences and history and all manner of human undertaking.
And they did not have well-educated clergy simply so that the clergy would have a better idea of what God wants and therefore the people don't have to think - not at all. An important part of our tradition is the firm belief that all believers are on their own journey; that no clergy can speak for the people, and no person can speak for another; that no clergy can speak "for the church", but that people can only speak for themselves. And the people, beginning in the beginning of the Pilgrim/Puritan landing, were very disagreeable with their pastors and religious leaders, because they, too, were reading and learning and forming their own opinions.
It was a form of Christianity that was very much interested in personal piety and personal holiness, but with a tremendous social component as well, of loving neighbor and helping each other and giving to the poor, and so on.
This is a rough sketch, of course; and absolutely there are exceptions to all things i mentioned. But, in a general three paragraph survey of the history and theological foundations of the first colonists, it's pretty true.
I am not just disappointed that Obama chose Warren, but I am insulted, angry, and horrified.
Rick Warren represents a strain of braindead, authority-heavy, non-traditional Christianity that goes back to the early 1800s with Dwight Moody's Dispensationalist bullshit. A form of Christianity that reacted against education, against learning, against such worldly things as "science" and "knowing things" and, well, against the people using their own brains to come to their own conclusions. Warren is from a strain of Christianity that does not ask its clergy leaders to be educated - not educated in anything. Hell, they don't even have to go to a Bible college or seminary. Which is not to say that people who don't go to college are dumb; but it is to say that religious leaders who have no proper training ARE dumb. They are fucking dumb. They know a lot of words in the Bible, but they are biblically illiterate. They know a lot of churchy words, but they don't know the church, and they don't know far more words than they do know.
Warren's is also a religious tradition that not only doesn't require church leaders to have education, it also, because there is no real unification or body, doesn't have any standards whatsoever for church leaders. Any person can just decide one day that they are ordained, call themselves a minister, and start a church. Warren, Osteen, Hagee, Swaggart, Hybals, and so many other mega-church and Evangelical pastors are pastors simply for that reason - they called themselves ordained, found some followers, and started a church. They are accountable to no one outside their own particular congregation. And I know that in the case of Warren, he has some kind of accountability group that's made up of a few friends and his wife, all of whom are the power brokers in his congregation. NO ACCOUNTABILITY.
Warren's is a religious tradition that eschews knowledge. He's from the homeschooling side of Christianity, where kids are homeschooled not to teach them better - as some homeschooling parents do - but to make sure they don't learn about evolution, science, sex, or any kind of critical thinking, especially not critical reading of the Bible.
Warren's is a religious tradition - Christian Zionists - that actually hates Jews, but believes they are necessary because they think that Jesus won't come back unless Israel is a country, and so they support Israel at all times, no matter what it does.
Warren's is a religious tradition that focuses almost solely on personal piety - one's personal relationship with Jesus - with almost no social component, other than to try to legislate personal purity (no gays, no abortion, no sex, etc.). There is amongst his group almost no social work, except as it comes with proselytizing. The newer generation is a little better at realizing that the environment, poverty, and hunger are actually issues that Christians should care about, but they have a long way to go.
Warren's is a religious tradition that is xenophobic; that equates the United States with God Himself (and in his tradition, God is always a "Himself" with the capital H and the masculine pronoun); that thinks America is carrying out Jesus' great final plan for all humanity; and wrap the cross with the American flag. Much of their reason for this bullshit goes back to Moody and his heretical reading of the books of Revelation and Daniel, and later heretical readings of the prophets of the Old Testament.
Warren's is a tradition that really has no link whatsoever to any strain of Christianity that CAN trace its roots back to the early church, in the way that the Catholic and Orthodox Churches, and the way that the UCC, Methodists, Presbyterians, Lutherans, and other mainline denominations, and some others around the world can.
And for thirty years, beginning when Reagan and Tim LeHaye (another evil piece of shit) put together the Moral Majority and told Jerry Falwell to head it up, Warren and his ilk have been the face of Christianity in this country, after almost 400 years of it being the UCC and other mainliners. That face has been ugly, fearful, full of bile and evil invective, has been racist, homophobic, warmongering, uncritical of government (except Clinton and liberals), unthoughtful, destructive of our schools and collective unconscious, anti-intellectual, and, I feel free to say, very anti-Jesus.
I had hopes with Obama, who was brought to Jesus in the United Church of Christ, not so much that he would vocally denounce the rightwing American fascist version of Christianity, but that he visibly and vocally support the traditional, long-standing, thoughtful, socially engaged version of Christianity that's been around for a long time and that he was raised in.
Choosing Warren - while it isn't as bad a choice as Hagee or Robertson or other truly fascist evil fucks - is a total slap in the face of every thoughtful, decent Christian in this country. Especially those of us who thought we were going to get a president who would stop offering presidential blowjobs to the jackoffs who make Christianity look like Nazism, just to pander to votes and support.
Obama could have picked the president of the United Church of Christ; or, afraid that the rightwing media would just pick that up and run it into the ground, could have picked a Lutheran ELCA Bishop, or the president of the Presbyterian Church USA, and Episcopal Bishop, or any other of a host of legitimate Christian leaders and pastors. Hell, pick a mainline pastor at random. Why not?
Instead, he chose a self-professed "minister" and supposed "doctor" (I'd like know which unaccredited school that comes from) of a "Christian" "church" who stands against almost everything that the rest of the church, at least the American version of the Church, has stood for for centuries.
I'm really, really, really pissed, and really, really, really let down. Obama had a perfect chance to say to the world, "The Jesus Crispies aren't in charge any more! Brains have come back to America!" but he blew it.
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