An experiment for DU'ers. Take a piece of paper and draw

[mmonk]

a straight line across the middle. On one end write: the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, The Geneva Convention, the Declaration of Human Rights, war as a last resort. On the other end write: a war started through deception, spying on citizens without a warrant, torture of prisoners without due process or application of the Geneva Convention, suspension of due process of law, suppression of free speech, elected officials above the law. In the middle or center, make a mark and give it a name.

The name I gave the mark is "STILL WRONG".

[LiberalFighter]

1. Isn't the side without the Constitution the old Soviet Union? Communism

[mmonk]

2. Very similar.

[boppers]

3. The Soviet Union had a Constitution.

Several over the years, actually.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Constitution

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

4. This is a very good OP.

[mmonk]

5. Thanks.

[LWolf]

6. I gave it "Lesser Evil."

Which is, of course, STILL WRONG.

I love your thread.

:loveya:

[mmonk]

8. Thank you.

:hi:

[Billy Burnett]

7. Then fold the paper.

The Holtzman effect.

[PerpetuallyDazed]

9. I think the majority of DU'ers can agree about "right/wrong"...

but we will forever squabble over the details of correcting said wrongs. What were you hoping your experiment to show?

[mmonk]

14. In terms of these issues, it isn't about left or right but right and wrong.

In that case, there is no moderate, center, or middle. The polical speakers and politicians that call citizens against these positions as the "left" or "base" or as not concerned with the things that "matter" to the American people or any other dismissive terms are speaking political speak and do not serve us. Thus, it is best not to keep electing politicians that play that game or ignore our pleas IMO.

[PerpetuallyDazed]

10. dupe

[wyldwolf]

12. he's making a false analogy of what centrism is

[KittyWampus]

11. Then look in the mirror and say "Reptile who sees things only in black and white"

[specimenfred1984]

13. Does this count?

[leftstreet]

17. Flying Spaghetti Monster for the Invocation Prayer!

[lumberjack_jeff]

15. Exactly right. In political continuum with illegal at one end and legal on the other.

Every point in between is some form of illegal.

Fuck centrism.

[bvar22]

16. Centrism.....

...Because it is EASY.
You don't have TO STAND for ANYTHING!