Americablog's Aravosis: "The (Warren) decision was made by Obama himself, I'm told."

[chascarrillo]

Aravosis: "A powerful Democratic friend contacted me this morning to let me know that they talked to the key players yesterday, and Diane Feinstein, chair of the Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies, had nothing to do with the pick of Rick Warren as Obama's invocation speaker at the inaugural. The decision was made by Obama himself, I'm told, and Feinstein just assumed that he had vetted it with his staff. Difi went along with Obama's decision, not the other way around. If this is true, then our apologies to Senator Feinstein for suggesting that she was involved."

More: http://www.americablog.com/2008/12/feinstein-reportedly-had-nothing-to-do.html

[LostinVA]

1. Just what most of us figured -- except for a handful of apologists

:sigh:

I was hoping I was wrong.

[babylonsister]

2. So who to believe, Aravosis or

the JCCIC?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4670307

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7993549

[chascarrillo]

6. Explain to me where the two are contradictory.

Kthxbai.

[Rockholm]

12. Aravosis, hands down.

[saltpoint]

3. The specific machinations aside, if Obama did not want a given

participant to appear with him on that stage, it seems to me he is uniquely positioned to remove him or her.

[saracat]

4. Obama himself said he would be responsible for his decisions so I don't see any altrnative but to

hold him responsible. This is no different than those he chose to campign alongside. I didn't like it then, and I don't like it now. I still consider it a slap in the face to both women and the GBTL Community. This is not a "petty " issue as framed by some. Civil Rights should be the cornerstone of our Democracy and not considered a "wedge issue".

[Deep13]

5. I never suspected Feinstein. She was with Milk when he was shot.

Anyway, I figured Obama decided. He's the decider now. (I don't mean to be derisive by putting it that way.)

[lapfog_1]

7. Please... Rick Warren is an OLD FRIEND of Obama's.

They didn't just meet at the Saddleback debate.

Obama even talks about his friendship with Warren in his book "The Audacity of Hope".

This one is pure Obama.

[Deep13]

11. Well, that's not exactly reassuring.

:-(

[cboy4]

8. I'm glad if it's true Senator Feinstein was not involved, especially

after she recorded those No on 8 spots.

It would have made absolutely no sense.

[LibDemAlways]

9. I sincerely doubt Feinstein could give a

rat's ass who delivers the invocation which is generally sort of a generic Christian thing. This one has to be laid at Obama's feet. Horrible choice. An insult to gays, women, progressives in general. These mega church guys are a bunch of charletons out to sell their books and get rich off the sheep. That Warren has built his empire in the OC and caters to a bunch of repukes is just :puke:

[whirlygigspin]

10. you know what they say...

...mysogenist birds of a feather enforce patriarchal social structures together.

-just sayin'



study up, your gonna need it to survive this gang

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogyny


especially love this part: "Feminist theorist Marilyn Frye argues that misogyny is phallogocentric and homoerotic at its root. In 'Politics of Reality', Fyre analyzes the alleged misogyny characteristic of the fiction and Christian apologetics of C.S. Lewis. Frye argues that such misogyny privileges the masculine as a subject of erotic attention. She compares the misogyny characteristic of Lewis' ideal of gender relations to underground male prostitution rings..."

--Jeff Gannon couldn't of said it better. 'I wanna be the psycho-sexual object of attention'

Desi, in fact and in deed.

[Renew Deal]

13. Of course he did.

Why would anyone think otherwise?

[nichomachus]

14. Of course he did -- he's been playing both sides against the middle from Day 1

I supported him because the alternative was so bad -- but I feel free to criticize him for stabbing us in the back the first chance he got.

And anyone who wants to accuse me of "whining" or who tells me to STFU -- can just go fuck themselves.

[BlooInBloo]

15. (shrug) Whoever made it, it's pretty shitty....

I wonder if we'll have to wait a-whole-nother day for DU's Next New Shiny Thing, though.