Ann Curry: With Warren Invocation, Obama Reaching Across The Aisle

[SuperTrouper]

Ann Curry discussing her Special report with Rick Warren, said on MSNBC with Contessa: "The Liberals are furious but Obama is standing up to them while Warren is being embraced by the Conservatives for his anti-gay stance and this is impressing the Conservatives that Obama is reaching across the aisle to unite the country even if he makes the liberals furious" Moreover she said: "Warren has written books that have made millions of dollars and he has donated more than 90% of the profits to help those who are in need"

[Maven]

1. Well I'm happy conservatives are impressed that Obama's embracing someone antigay

He'll need them all to get reelected.

[ecstatic]

2. She didn't mention that a lot of RWers are angry with Warren

for appearing with Obama.

[SuperTrouper]

4. I could not believe that she did not mention that. If you go to FR they are

not happy with Warren either, they say that he "sold himself to Obama"

[Bluebear]

3. Marvelous, reaching across to the gay-hating contingent. And pushing us aside.

[bicentennial_baby]

5. But, but, there will be gays in the parade!

;)

[jonnyblitz]

6. and it's just an invocation not a Cabinet post!!11

:hi:

[bicentennial_baby]

8. It's only 2 minutes!

Kinda like, oh I don't know..."It's only one song"?

:hi:

[ronnykmarshall]

17. SNAP!

[jonnyblitz]

7. dupe, delete

[kstewart33]

11. Oh, give it a rest, please.

Pushing you aside? Because he dares to include a very socially conservative minister in his inauguration program? For 2 minutes?

If you want to get angry, there are far more serious things to think about. The economy, anyone? Iraq? The deaths of hundreds of thousands?

Give me a break.

[Bluebear]

13. Go to hell if you don't think gay rights is a "serious thing to think about". Shame on you.

[meegbear]

14. I get angry at people who tell me to "give it a rest, please" ...

up yours.

[ronnykmarshall]

15. Yeah!

You gays just shut the fuck up. Go to brunch, go to a disco. Just don't spoil everything for us regular people!!

:sarcasm:

[LostinVA]

16. Civil rights are important -- what right do YOU want to give up?

Come on -- choose one.

[Bluebear]

19. Quiet! kstewart33 says this is NOT serious enough to talk about

[LostinVA]

25. Maybe you can talk about show tunes and I can talk about chainsaws

We silly queers!!!

[Bluebear]

27. Chainsaws? Oh, faboo! Faboo!

(I'm REALLY not good at that...lol)

[bluedawg12]

30. Of course your not! But I am!

Let's see what other stereotypes we can congregate around and discuss to keep the middle of the roaders happy.
Anything but gay political activism.

[LostinVA]

31. No, but I'm a lesbian, so I can, of course

[bluedawg12]

34. We have monthly meetings where we bring our favorite tools

and wear our best flannel shirts.

No politicking for us. :grr:

[LostinVA]

39. I like to spit and talk about working on my truck

[bluedawg12]

46. mrsbluedawg loves me in my work boots

:rofl:

[LostinVA]

50. Haruka thinks I'm sexy when I use the chainsaw -- really

[bluedawg12]

53. I know, mrsbluedawg does too. Hey, variety is the spice of life!

I under the other hand think she is beautiful. So, there! :rofl: Just like real folk. :evilgrin:

[Bluebear]

35. I mean the faboo stuff and show tunes and all.

But I would make a hell of a lesbian lol!

[LostinVA]

36. You may be too hairy for me!

I can talk about showtunes -- maybe I'm a gay man?

[Bluebear]

42. P.S. Obama's "talking points" say a group "representing the interests of gays" will be marching.

A fucking marching band.

It's nice and all but how do they "represent my interests"?

[bluedawg12]

49. Well, we're gay and by definition we "love a parade."

One of the little people marching in a faceless blob while that fat f*ck fundy is on the podium and getting MSM corporate media kudos from the likes of numb skull Curry.

"Good morning.

Good morning.

Good morning.

This is Ann with the news.

"Good morning.

Good morning.

Good morning."

Have you seen that clip? She was lost without her newsreader script. muhhaawwwhawww. :evilgrin:

[LostinVA]

51. Gay men like show tunes, right?

[bluedawg12]

54. He could have just had Liza march, that would have fit the sterotypes

and placated people all at the same time.

Not that there is anything wrong with Liza. :)

[Neecy]

57. I can explain

First, he left out a word. This group will represent the interests of 'the' gays.

And it's not an offensive stereotype that we love marching in big campy parades - not at all. I just hope "our" float is a big Broadway-ish production with lights and dancing men and all - I find that a huge comfort when my rights are allowed to be voted away.

[Bluebear]

61. Ooooh lights and dancing men!!!11

Obviously, that will distract all of us from realizing what is happening to our rights. Thanks for the clarification, Neecy XO

[Neecy]

67. no problemo

We're very child-like, you know, and easily assuaged by disco balls and guys in g-strings and "It's Raining Men" etc.

I'll bet our float is co-hosted by a local gay bar and Grey Goose Vodka. I hope I catch some mardi gras beads when they pass by as a memento of my representation at the parade...

[bluedawg12]

62. So true, nothing say's my civil rights are important more than

a float, a band and some show tunes.

Somewhere out in a sea of marching drones, while fat f*ck fundy is bloviating on the podium reaching out across the aisle and giving nothing, nothing at all, in return.

[HillWilliam]

86. Now see, you both have me really confused now

because I'm really good with a chainsaw and I hate show tunes.

Maybe I'm a lesbian and nobody told me :(

[bluedawg12]

32. I have a really nice Huskvarna 14" chain saw, my own cement mixer

and a versa pak 18 volt power drill. I hope that makes the appeasers more comfortable.

How about you gang?

[LostinVA]

I want an alligator lopper sooooo bad

[bluedawg12]

56. I'd settle for a nice alligator

it's so cold up here, I have to wear two flannel shirts! LOL.

[ronnykmarshall]

37. I just wish they sold Judy Garland CD's at Home Depot.

Then we could go shopping together!

[LostinVA]

43. I bet the HD in Key West sells 'em

[bluedawg12]

59. Well, I have my Patti Lupone Evita CD going

as the sound track to my life for the last few weeks, I feel so empowered and then to think that gays will be marching!

I'm tinkling with joy!

:evilgrin:

[KitchenWitch]

18. ...

[BR_Parkway]

20. Who says I can't be angry about all those things as well? I'm furious

on a number of accounts - the same old/same old selections for the cabinet, the war/Gitmo timetables and a bunch of other crap that seems so counter to the Hope and Change we voted for.

But if you think I'm somehow not entitled to be pissed off about his selection of Warren, then piss off - you don't get to decide what I'm angry about.

[Book Lover]

21. I beg your pardon?

Actually, no, I will *not* give it a rest. The choice of this man over manuy others is a clear gesture: Obama will placate social conservatives at the expense of our GLBT sisters and brothers, now at the inaguration and later at any opportunity open to him. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's rainiing!

[AndyA]

22. Would you say the same thing to black people?

Or those who are handicapped?

Should they, too, just "give it a rest"?

Shame on you.

[Sub Atomic]

23. OK. Just to appease another homophobe, I'll go back in the closet.

Fuck you and the high horse you rode in on.

[EFerrari]

24. "Social conservatism" is code for discrimination. There's no reason

to give discrimination a rest, thanks.

[bluedawg12]

29. Yeah! Give it a rest, embracing consrevatives is why I voted for a progressive?

:sarcasm:

Even Ann gets the messageand the MSM is alrady framing it as:

"Warren is being embraced by the Conservatives for his anti-gay stance and this is impressing the Conservatives..."

She get's what's happening and so does the gay community!

[AlCzervik]

45. who actively supported amending the California Constitution to take rights away

give a rest? Hardly.

[TankLV]

58. FUCK YOU - ASSHOLE!

I hope I'm not upsetting you...ASSHOLE...

[Ioo]

65. Ummm, how about "No!" I am tired of waiting to YOU TO GET AROUND TO ME!

Done with it.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

68. The same minister who vocally supported Prop 8, jackass.

[closeupready]

71. Oh, please. Your opinion, kstewart, is VASTLY less important than that of the GLBT community

with regard Obama's choice of Warren.

[kstewart33]

74. What a barrel of hate I unleashed.

Geez, Louise guys. It's the holidays.

Let's suspend the Obama hate until after New Years, okay?

[LostinVA]

76. There IS no "Obama hate"

[kstewart33]

78. Could have fooled me. nt

[bluedawg12]

79. Apparently you were, if you think there is "common ground"

with Warren.

[LostinVA]

82. Where?

[Runcible Spoon]

84. apparently that's not difficult

"fool me"...not hard to fool the foolish

[kstewart33]

88. Oh come on, personal insults are beneath you, aren't they? nt

[KitchenWitch]

90. The only hate I see here is the hate that Rick Warren has for GLBTs and women.

[WVRICK13]

96. ASSHOLE

That is like telling the Jews it isn't a big thing for Hitler's portrait will only be on display in the Capital for two minutes. Warren is to gays what Hitler is to Jews. Being gay and of Jewish descent I take offense.

[jonnyblitz]

9. why is it so imperative that he stand up to liberals?

did the fucking wingnuts who he is so enamored of vote for his ignorant fucking ass?

[kstewart33]

12. Moderator, please delete.

[ecstatic]

41. No. It should remain so everyone can see, clearly, where that

guy stands.

[KitchenWitch]

44. Too late, you said it.

The toothpaste cannot be put back in the tube.

[kstewart33]

77. No, I wasn't asking that my comment be deleted.

I'll stand by that, thank you. I just thought that Johnnyblitz was abit much.

Why is there so much hate on this thread?

[SuperTrouper]

81. Not hate, just robust discussion

[LostinVA]

83. There IS no hate

[closeupready]

85. Your dismissive tone is cold and even hostile.

That's why.

[kstewart33]

87. I'm sorry if it sounded that way.

For that, I'm truly sorry. For the rest, I stand by it.

I'm just taken aback by all the hostility toward Obama for what he did, and by all the flaming cursing toward me and any one else who disagrees.

This thread sounds like the crazies on Free Republic. Certainly not about the issue, just about anyone who disagrees with the posters on this and other threads about what Obama did.

Dare to disagree and you'll called every name in the book. And no one is belittling gay rights.

[closeupready]

89. I just think people are tired of being taken for granted.

We in the GLBT community have seen this happen for (basically) ever.

So when he said he was about change, either he didn't mean it, or he didn't mean for GLBT people. For that, we deserve to express our anger at his poor judgment. IMO.

[mitchtv]

95. I donno , maybe people don't like it under

the bus,OR BEING TOLD WHAT IS ok TO BE INSULTED BY. Pardon me but you are dense and insensitive

[Bucky]

33. That's a little over the top.

Obama is obviously trying to isolate the wingnuttiest of the Republican Right. I can't believe you'd refer to Obama as "his ignorant fucking ass."

PS, I hope the mods don't censor your comments because they're too harshly worded. I don't like your opinion, but it should be okay to criticize the president in this forum.

If the mods go overboard and censor you for saying (in entirety)...

why is it so imperative that he stand up to liberals?
Posted by jonnyblitz

did the fucking wingnuts who he is so enamored of vote for his ignorant fucking ass?

...I'll be quite disappointed.

[ecstatic]

38. Your true colors keep on shining through

:eyes:

"Ignorant fucking ass"

Brilliant.

[jonnyblitz]

47. tough fucking shit. i don't like homophobe apologists. nt

[SuperTrouper]

75. Oh no, there you go again. nt

[kstewart33]

10. She's absolutely right. nt

[EFerrari]

28. No, she's full of it. She's trying to dress up a political decision

in ethical clothes. Sucking up to right winger hatemongers is not change. Taking their money and calling it uniting the country is about as cynical as you can get.

/oops

[bluedawg12]

40. Curry is a tool - but she got the rw MSM memo

"let's move on from those pesky civil rights issues and gays after all it's not fundys it's the GAYS who are dividing this nation."

[EFerrari]

60. Yes, she's fighting for the other side and calling it marcaroni.

That's exactly what it is.

Obama is good at appropriating other people's frames and turning them to his advantage. He does that better than 99 of 100 Democrats. But he hasn't really appropriated this frame for his own (liberal) purposes, has he? He's just joined the right wing.

[bluedawg12]

63. He really has joined the right wing and getting nothing in return

maybe if fat f*ck fundy earned his way to the podium by recanting his homophobic statements, maybe.

But as it is, he is giving a top honor, status, publicity and recognition and wait...acceptance to this douche
who has done nothing to earn it.

[EFerrari]

66. I was thinking last night that if I had rewarded my teenagers for horrible behavior

our family therapist would have been on me in a heartbeat and he would have lectured me about what a good parent really is. And he would have been right. You don't reward anti social behavior unless you want more of it. It's that simple.

[bluedawg12]

69. This gives cover to people who are bigoted on the left AND right

under the guise of "reaching out across the issues that divide us."

The snag is, the problem that divides us is going to be right up there on the podium with the hoped for solution. I think your family therapist might say that the message is "conflicted?" :evilgrin:

[EFerrari]

72. LOL. I think he would have told me that I was now part of the problem.

:)

[bluedawg12]

80. Odd, when gays and allies say who is part of the problem

the victimizers are automactically elevated to "victim" status.

Accountability is healthy. ;-)

[bluedawg12]

26. They could have simply embraced the: gays, guns and God message

from the get go--and gotten even more votes. :grr:

Ann (the genius) seems to get it: reach across the aisle and send the message: we stand with you against gays.

[madfloridian]

48. It's always good to be seen "standing up to liberals." Sadly

that's a plan with our party.

Warren is a bigot who has used wedge issues to become a political religious pundit.

He should not be giving that invocation.

[bullwinkle428]

52. Juan Williams pushing this EXACT SAME MEME on NPR this morning -

yes, the same guy that condemned the shoe-thrower, saying that the Iraqi people should be grateful to GWB for liberating them! :puke:

[bluedawg12]

64. Now we know the apologetics, still will never understand the need

to put the fat face of hate up there.

[SuperTrouper]

73. Don't remind me of Juan Williams who criticized Obama during the

Primaries and the GE to appease his Fox bosses. :puke:

[Beacool]

55. Geez, now we have to be concerned about the conservatives' opinion?

He just won the election, he's not running for reelection until 2012. How about pleasing his base for a real "change"?

:eyes:

[bluedawg12]

70. I guess now we are "truly left behind" to use Warrens phraseology.

[KitchenWitch]

91. That was Tim LaHaye, but I am sure Rick Warren is a fan.

:thumbsup:

[PVnRT]

92. So, I guess liberals are the bad guys that need to be stood up to now

I'm glad the right-wingers are glad. They'll be smiling when they still vote for the GOP in 2012.

[Lilith Velkor]

93. Gosh, that's such a CHANGE from the past twenty years

:eyes:

[Celeborn Skywalker]

94. This is going too far.

He could have chosen a preacher from one of the mainline denominations to give the invocation and there would have been no problem.