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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:30 PM
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Why the free pass for Hillary Clinton, who banded together with the "man-on-dog" guy?
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 02:17 PM by LoZoccolo
WASHINGTON - Sen. Hillary Clinton, D- N.Y., appeared Wednesday at a Capitol Hill press conference with conservative Republican senators Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania and Sam Brownback of Kansas and conservative Democratic Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut to tout their request for $90 million in federal funds for research on how the Internet, i-Pods, and other electronic media affect children's emotional and behavioral development.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7142420

Is she excused?

(To be fair, the first two "no" responses in this thread were to a different question I put before the edit. Saracat and MookieWilson are not saying that she is not excused.)

ON EDIT: This is not a rehash of the primaries. There is no use in doing that. I don't care that Hillary shared a stage with Santorum per se. I am trying to arrive at a definition of the concept of "endorsing". If Obama is "endorsing" Warren, why is Hillary not "endorsing" Santorum here?

ON EDIT AGAIN: It is not enough to tell me it is "different".
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:31 PM
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1. No. nt
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:31 PM
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2. No.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:32 PM
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3. actually i have been thinking now
that we might as well have just elected Hillary. i read "The Family" and know of HRC's complicity with these evil bastards. i thought Obama was different. so, so wrong.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:37 PM
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4. So since was this 5 years ago
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 01:38 PM by LibFromWV
did this pass? Was it funded? Or is this a hit and run? Really try harder. People can and will be upset about some of President Obama's decisions. Doesn't make him bad or evil, just a politician. And besides, rolling over and being "yes" people for a president didn't work out so well did it?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:38 PM
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5. Because she's not the president elect. Next inane question?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:40 PM
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8. So Obama is "endorsing" Rick Warren's views as a president-elect.
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 01:40 PM by LoZoccolo
Hillary is "endorsing" Rick Santorum's views as a senator.

Sure, there is a difference.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:44 PM
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15. And she doesn't control who supports a bill she supports. nt
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:39 PM
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6. Exactly what was the crime here?
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 01:41 PM by onehandle
Obama sponsored bills with Republicans too.

Lieberman was his mentor.

So?

(on edit, I may be confused as to what the OP is proposing here)
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:39 PM
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7. Is it true that Rick Warren
opposes "man-on-dog" action?
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:40 PM
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9. holy crap, is the primary still going on in your feeble little brain?
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 01:41 PM by jonnyblitz
some of us actually *do* care about human rights issues.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:41 PM
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10. You said it.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:42 PM
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13. Duh?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:44 PM
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16. Can you answer the question?
I don't care about Hillary running; she lost. But you didn't see this outrage. Isn't she just as guilty of "endorsing" Santorum's view?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:41 PM
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11. It is possible to condemn Warren and his inclusion without condemning Obama.
Which also means I can disagree with Clinton without condemning her as whatever.

Even so, your parallel is a poor one, if you are only complaining about the reaction to Warren. Clinton is a senator and works with other senators to accomplish legislation. She will necessarily have to side with senators we all disagree with--whom she disagrees with, as well--to accomplish anything. Bottom line--she didn't choose Santorum or Brownback for the Senate, and in the last election she didn't choose Lieberman in the general election, either. Obama did choose Warren.

I'm not condemning Obama. I'm condemning his choice of Warren. And I do condemn Clinton's choices when I disagree with her. So I'm not sure what you are asking if I excuse her from.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:41 PM
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12. man-on-dog?
I think I saw that on the intertubes. :hide:
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:43 PM
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14. LOL!!!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:54 PM
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17. You need your meds.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:55 PM
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18. Still haven't heard why this isn't "endorsing" Santorum like Obama is "endorsing" Warren! n/t
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:13 PM
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35. I never thought O is endorsing Warren.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:58 PM
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19. You're using a 3 1/2 year old article just to spread the seeds of hatred again???
I notice you cleverly left out the March. 10, 2005 date of your article, soon to be 4 years old. You are just as pathetic as you were.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:59 PM
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20. For the record, I don't give a fuck about Hillary being onstage with Rick Santorum.
I just want people to lay off Obama, or explain why Obama is "endorsing" Warren but Hillary was not "endorsing" Santorum.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:03 PM
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24. Your full of it and you're just trying to deflect the animosity back toward Clinton
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 02:10 PM by mtnsnake
because you can't stomach anyone voicing concern about some of Obama's decisions.

For the record, I don't give a fuck about Hillary being onstage with Rick Santorum. I just want people to lay off Obama, or explain why Obama is "endorsing" Warren but Hillary was not "endorsing" Santorum


Using an article that's almost 4 years old to get people to start hating Clinton again is nothing short of pathetic, no matter what your lame excuse is.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:05 PM
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28. Don't personally attack me.
You can make your point elsewise.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:08 PM
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31. Just calling it like it is. You are full of it. I edited the other subject line from shit to it
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 02:11 PM by mtnsnake
Feel better?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:16 PM
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37. That is still a personal attack.
If you expect people to respond to you, then you should not do that.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:21 PM
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38. This isn't SundaySchoolUnderground.com.
When someone is as full of it as you are, you're bound to hear about it when you're posting on a political message board.

But I think you already knew that...
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:01 PM
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21. this is not a valid comparison
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:02 PM
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22. Is she President Elect? Is she having Rick Warren at her inauguration?
No?!?

Then it's false equivalency and unhelpful to the discussion.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:04 PM
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26. If Obama is "endorsing" Warren, how is Hillary not "endorsing" Santorum? n/t
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:06 PM
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30. Did you even read my response? Do you understand the public
nature of the inauguration? At all? For the world?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:09 PM
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32. A press conference is not for the public to see? n/t
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 03:05 PM
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40. Willful ignorance of the difference between the once-every-four-years
inauguration of the US president (a world event) and a press conference is shameful and beneath most folks.

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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:03 PM
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23. Oh make it stop
:puke:
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:04 PM
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25. Was the bill on
man on dog sex? No fucking comparison.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:04 PM
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27. Is Warren's appearance going to be a lecture on homosexuality? n/t
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:06 PM
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29. Warrens life is a lecture on
homosexuality. No comparison.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:14 PM
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36. And McClurkin's appearance wasn't a lecture on homosexuality either!
Oh wait...
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:11 PM
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33. Very different things.
Primaries are over. since you can't understand that the primaries are over and wish to continue the fighting I will put you back on ignore.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:12 PM
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34. Hillary endorsed all kinds of crazy shit during the primaries
Santorum. The West Virginia racists. Obliterating Iran. Fictional missions to Bosnia. Just to name a few.....

But what the Hell does any of that have to do with a homophobic dominionazi speaking at the inaguration?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:21 PM
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39. I think the point is that much of the criticism is two-faced.
Many of the critics of Warren's homophobia took no issue with Hillary's racism.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 03:14 PM
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41. For the same reason why there's no DU OUTRAGE over Bill Clinton getting donations from Blackwater
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 03:15 PM by ClarkUSA
Pure unadulterated hypocrisy.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 03:15 PM
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42. Nobody is saying that Obama shouldn't work with Warren.
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