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npk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:49 AM
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Why can't people like Warren, you know bible thumping Christians, leave other people alone
Why do people like Warren have to constantly tell the rest of us how to live.
If he is so damn certain of God's word and beliefs, than great go tell it on the fucking mountain.
Shout it from the top of the mountains as loud as you want, just please leave the rest of us the
fuck alone. If I end up going to hell and burning for all of eternity, I promise I will not blame
it on you, Mr. Warren. Why do so many so called Christians fill the need to beat everybody down,
make them confess they are evil sinners, and then try and bring them into their tight little circle.


You know some people just want to live their lives the way they want and maybe
live with, or marry, who they want to without having to have your ass tell them how wrong
they are. So please Mr. Warren, leave people alone. I mean at the end of the day what
does it matter to Warren and his flock of Christians whether gay and lesbian people marry. People
like Warren just have to let everyone know that they are certain of how God wants the rest of us to
live. Just leave people the fuck alone you stupid Bigot.

I don't give a damn about your moral certainty.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:52 AM
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1. They are simply trying to reach out. Let us meet them halfway. nt.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:57 AM
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4. Why do I get the feeling that half way isn't going to be good enough for him and his ilk? n/t
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:58 AM
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5. that is the way compromise works in America. no one should be forced. nt.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:18 AM
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11. Because your thought is correct - they do not believe in compromise regarding
Their scriptural interpretation of choice.
Anything else would be "worldly" a fun word they use for normal human living they consider sinful.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:24 AM
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14. Yes the old Torquemada reach around, err I mean "out" NT
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:12 AM
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16. LOL!!
:D

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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:05 AM
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25. What's half-way between discrimination and equality? n/t
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 09:30 PM
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30. Pretty much America since 1776.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:53 AM
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2. Ummm...because he's an evangelist??
By definition, his "job" is to spread his version of scripture.

...and that's exactly what he's doing.
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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:53 AM
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3. Imaginary friends can really fuck you up! n/t
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 12:57 AM by rawtribe
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:59 AM
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6. It's our fault for not listening when they call us pedophiles
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:59 AM
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7. Don't a lot of uh...religious people need to feel persecuted?
:shrug:

Haven't some always historically singled out those people and groups they feel are "persecuting" them by pointing out their bigotry and weirdness?

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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:01 AM
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8. Hate=Money
$ad but true fact about extremi$t religiou$ po$ition$. It put$ butt$ in the $eat$ and money in the coffer$.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:06 AM
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9. Because they get a self-reinforcing buzz off of it that they think is the Holy Spirit.
And they're too self-ignorant and/or dishonest to recognize their own faults and they assume they can read the mind of God well enough to be able to say that their own "small" sins do not matter as much as your "big" sins and they assume that they have a responsibility to save you from your "big" sins, while ignoring their own "small" faults.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:14 AM
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10. On the list of importance for that type religion, Proselytization is way above
say, feeding the hungry. They believe they have to convert you or you are working for the imaginary fire demon "Satan".

I am not kidding.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:20 AM
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12. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and more
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:21 AM
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13. Southern Strategy using gays instead of blacks cause using blacks isn't cool anymore
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:10 AM
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15. Why can't scorpions stop stinging people?
It's their nature.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 05:16 AM
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17. Because Christianity, like Islam, is based on proselytizing
And that's why I'm a Wiccan--we don't proselytize. :)
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:43 AM
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20. Correct! besides leading to conflict, It is also simply rude.
Another good reason to be proud to be Wiccan!
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JohnnieGordon Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 05:40 AM
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18. I think their religion would bore them without the hate
That's the impression given. Love and compassion are sissy stuff in their mentality. They're interested in the hate.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:05 AM
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19. Because when Jesus said Love your Neighbor
They find it extremely hard unless their neighbor agrees with them on everything so they try to make their neighbor agree with them so that they can love them :shrug:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:54 AM
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21. They never did learn from the history of Christians when they were persecuted.
Maybe it's time to start throwing the likes of Warren to the lions.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:58 AM
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23. Many who were once persecuted now persecute. NT
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:58 AM
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22. They can. They simply rather play God than worship and obey Him.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:58 AM
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24. Because we have people like OBAMA propping them up
and giving them cred.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 02:07 AM
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26. I'm sick of hearing about Jeebus, absolutely loathe them.
They should shut up. They are so goddamn insistent, they drove me away a long time ago. They are into coercion, not love.

And there is no such thing as a true christian. That is a logical fallacy.

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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 04:13 PM
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27. It's part of the catch-22 to religious freedom.
We claim people have the right to pray and practice their chosen religion as they wish. But a big part of their religion is reaching out to and saving others. So if we tell them they can't do that, then we aren't really advocating freedom of religion.

I find it annoying too. I have several acquaintances who are evangelic and speak to me sometimes about their religion - I don't want to hear it, but I listen politely to a point and then explain to them that I appreciate their devotion but it's just not for me. And they get that and that's the end of that topic. It's really not that difficult to deal with and it makes for better relationships all around if we're all a bit more tolerant. You can not erase intolerance with more intolerance.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 04:56 PM
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28. The fact that they constantly try to get religion in the public square by force
Proves that they are failures. Churches are supposed to be able to convince people to follow whatever gospel they are preaching through the power of their own persuasion. When churches have to go to the government to impose their moral strictures on other people it's an admission that they aren't up to the job.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 08:36 PM
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29. Two reason
One: The fear that their way of life is changing. Many of these same people are against immigration in America.

Two: Most Christians are afraid for your soul. They are taught that it is their duty, given to them by god, to save you from hell fire. If they fail to do so, then god might take it out on them and they will be sharing that fire with you. This is called proselytizing and it has brought about the untold misery of millions throughout the centuries.















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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 06:34 PM
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34. Three:
They are afraid of life and death and lean heavily on religion. But somehow they don't have enough faith to truly believe what they claim to believe. Unless they can get everyone else to go along with them they feel challenged, threatened and insecure. Because what if the non-believers are right? I think some people are absolutely terrified at the idea that there isn't a spiritual safety net when they go through hard times and when they die.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 09:53 PM
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31. well as a church going christian -- i think on the surface
there are a couple of things going on.

not the least of which is getting ahead of things like polygamy, incest, forced sex on slaves -- if they can control the message then they control period.

the second has a lot to do with the first. -- control of peoples genitalia -- because there is no better way to control a population if you have their hands on their genitals.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 12:54 AM
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32. Because they create their religions around their biases.
Jesus never ONCE spoke about homosexuality.

There are only two negative references in the entire Bible, three if you count the men who demanded Lot send out his visitors. Both negative references considered homosexuality to be a "sin" of equal dignity with eating shrimp or heterosexual premarital sex.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 02:02 PM
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33. Control freaks, they have to have power over somebody, or so
they think. They see it slipping away as the country becomes more liberal, since the 60s. They want that old world order back and keep trying to convince themselves there is a change America will go back to it.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 06:49 PM
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35. They're working on commission...
Brownie Points for Heaven.


Even though they're wasting their time and effort on trying to convert me, they still keep trying anyway, hoping that I'll have a moment of weakness and allow their invisible friends into my head as well.

What they don't seem to realize is the more they try, the more stubborn and rejecting I become.

Kind of like dealing with annoying telemarketers. Oh well...I suppose wasting their time on me keeps them off the streets and away from animals and little children

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