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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:05 PM
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Why should I trust anything the media clowns say?
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 10:07 PM by Politics_Guy25
Why should I take anything seriously that these clowns say? These same clowns told me that Hillary was the inevitable democratic nominee. Then, immediately after the Sarah Palin pick, some of them went on TV and said that the GOP had found their own Obama in the form of Sarah Palin and that our now-president was fast being pushed aside in favor of Palin. Then, they told us that the Weather Underground/Ayers attack would sink the Obama campaign. Then they told us that JSM's suspension of his campaign to rush back to Washington was a shrewd move and would fundamentally reshape the campaign in his favor.

Before that, even after the February primary contests made then Senator Obama's delegate lead unimpeachable, they insisted on spinning every victory by Hillary as proof that the Obama campaign was over and he would no longer be the nominee. They also said that the Rev. Wright sermons would sink the Obama candidacy.

Still even further back, they said in 2004 that the Bush re-election meant that the GOP would have a permanent majority in Washington with locks on the hill and the White House for a generation. Eh? Not so much?

Now even further back, they told us that Saddam Hussein was a GRAVE menace with thousands of nuclear/other WMD's BUT at the same time, it would be very easy to defeat him and we'd be welcomed as liberators. I wonder if they don't get the inherent contradiction there. Of course, they managed to be wrong again on both counts.

Now going back to the 1990s, we were told that the American public was FURIOUS at President clinton over the Lewinsky affair and that he would no doubt have to resign or be impeached. Eh? Not so much. In fact, it was Gingrich and the republican majorities in congress who took the hit for that affair.

Then, in 1995, we had the W.H. press corps asking 42 if he would run for a 2nd term and declaring him dead and the next president Newt Gingrich!! Eh? Not so much?

Now, we have these SAME clowns after just 60 days of President Obama's historic tenure telling us that he's bitten off more than he can chew, that Geitner should go, that the administration is in chaos, etc. It's absurd. Take everything the media says for entertainment purposes only. If you want to talk about being in over your head, it's the entire NY/Washington media establishemnt that is!! These clowns need to back off and shut up.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:09 PM
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1. The 2004 Repub Permanent Majority predicition really worked out well
The lovely media also crapped on Al Gore in 2000 an basically said he told lies (the infamous internet quote) when that was never true. Their agenda is so transparent in 2009. We have smartened up and their ratings have slid. We have the internet to discuss the news that matters to us.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 07:30 AM
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12. They kneecapped Gore, no doubt. nt
Edited on Mon Mar-23-09 07:31 AM by Enthusiast
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:09 PM
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2. The Answer Is Trust Half of What You See, A Quarter Of What You Read, And None Of What You Hear
eom
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:10 PM
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3. For many of the reasons in your OP
I don't trust shit the media or blogs say without doing more verification. They all lie, spin, conjecture and guess.
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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:13 PM
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4. People like Brokaw, Blitzer, King used to be heros of mine
After seeing them over the psst 10 years, I now hold them and the entire media in disdain and utter contempt. They used to have my total trust and I even adored them. Now not so much. Seeing the differences in how they treated the presidencies of 42/43 and now 43/44 really wisened me up.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 07:34 AM
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13. You are so right.
This reminds me of the media during The Clinton Administration. Not that Clinton didn't deserve criticism but it was 24/7 repeat any and every wild allegation as if they were credible. There was certainly an ulterior motive going on and it continues.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:16 PM
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5. You've summed it up perfectly.
The answer is what we already knew - we should NEVER trust ANYTHING the REPUKE media says...
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:20 PM
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6. And they wonder why they are sinking like stones in the ratings...
Most of what I read in the paper or hear on the tube, I've already known for a day from the internet -
and in much more depth. They are grasping at straws trying to get more share of a smaller and smaller audience.

I think that's why they mostly lean right, most of the people who still use the MSM are older folks who are afraid of change.
That's why Faux has the biggest ratings.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:31 PM
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7. You're right!
Remember that they said that John Kerry wasn't fit to serve,
but Bush was a resolved leader.

The Corporate media is a piece of dog shit; I make sure to step over it.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 02:23 AM
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10. Comcast guy came by the other day
Told me that he could give me a great deal where instead of just internet, I could have basic cable and internet for the same price I'm paying now! He was fairly surprised when I turned him down cold. Told him I didn't want the feed even coming into the house, even if we never actually tapped it. He was more than surprised, befuddled I'd say.
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:11 AM
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18. Oh, God, you too?
This happened to me too! Comcast Guy came by to replace a defective cable modem and mentioned that I could save $4 / month if I were to get basic cable along with the internet.

I told him in no uncertain terms that I hadn't had cable since 2002, and that I wasn't about to start now.

He says, "But it'll make your bill cheaper!" To which I replied, "Yes, but I don't watch television."

"You don't even have to turn it on! It'll save you money!"

"Yes, but then I would have cable, and I don't want cable."

"What difference would it make? What would it even matter? It's CHEAPER!!!"

To which I could only shake my head with a sad smile on my face, pitying the poor Comcast guy who just could not, for the life of him, understand how there could be a person who has such great distaste for cable television that even the prospect of saving a whopping $4 per month would not cause them to violate their principles.


You wrote: "He was more than surprised, befuddled I'd say. "

Befuddled isn't nearly strong enough a word, I would say that this fellow was dumbfounded, utterly flabbergasted even. What I was trying to say just did not compute for him one bit. I'm sure he thinks that I'm some sort of wacko, liberal or otherwise.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:52 AM
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19. Mine didn't try nearly as hard
But he did repeat a couple of times that it would be basically free cable. I told him free cable would still be cable and I don't want that crap to be piped into my house.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 07:34 AM
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14. Yup, they kneecapped Kerry, also. nt
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:08 PM
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8. 2 words: Ongoing Disgrace
The "media" is mostly a worn out mode of communication wherein "tension" is created in hopes of keeping a viewer's attention. The only tension that isn't allowed is calling out an advertiser as the frauds they are, that'd be stabbing the corporate propagandists in the back. So, what the "media" is left with is a form of communication that many people now know is a complete waste of time.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:16 PM
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9. 10 years ago we had a media feeding frenzy against a President
who retained high approval ratings with the people. Now we have that again. What do the two Presidents have in common? Both are Democrats who raised taxes on our millionaire talking head and pundit class. Remember you can't maintain a middle class democracy with a millionaire press corps.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 07:54 AM
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16. Most journalists, however, made slave wages.
I'm really getting tired of reading how "rich" journalists are.

Most of them absolutely are not - they make far less than teachers in their respective communities. I left the profession because of the long hours and low pay. Many journalists do.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:09 AM
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17. You're talking print and local journalists. Not cable hosts and pundits
Any of them appearing on cable or network broadcast as well as certain print columnists make a lot of money. It was telling that when Obama announced that Bush's tax cut would be allowed to expire as part of his budget that it was 3 TV correspondents (Chip Reid, Jake Tapper and Ed Henry) who were the one hammering Robert Gibbs about with GOP talking points.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 07:28 AM
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11. Media-our greatest challenge.
Consider the good an objective media could accomplish.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 07:37 AM
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15. We should be hyper vigilant of
attempts to undermine internet neutrality.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 11:26 AM
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20. Bright Side....The Daily Show
was born to remind us of these losers, liars and clowns never ending blather of wrong, wrong, wrong.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 11:29 AM
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21. I recently read an editorial that stuck in my craw so much
Edited on Mon Mar-23-09 11:50 AM by rocktivity
I defrocked the clown:

Your real problem is that you resent Obama being so successful without you--he's...becoming popular enough to either pick his own media favorites (like calling on the Huffington Post at the last TV presser) or dispose of you altogether. After eight years of acting as Bush's gatekeepers and interpreters, you MSM-ers are suddenly an endangered species...(I)f Obama is getting too overexposed, maybe press conferences is what he ought to stop doing!

:headbang:
rocktivity
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 12:12 PM
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22. As someone who used to work for ABC, let me just say...
you shouldn't.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 12:19 PM
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23. What are you talking about????
Edited on Mon Mar-23-09 12:20 PM by Beacool
The media was so in the tank for Obama that they were positively drooling and getting tingling feelings going up their collective legs.

It took a skit on SNL to finally get the MSM to question themselves and to start vetting Obama. After that, Hillary won most primaries from March - June. It may not have been enough to surmount the number of pledged delegates that Obama had accumulated in February, but she came a hair away from winning the nomination.

:o
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:19 PM
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25. In terms of collecting the majority of the delegates
Edited on Mon Mar-23-09 09:32 PM by rocktivity
Hillary did so 8 out of 16 times between March and June. Obama won the popular vote in Guam by a hair, and they got two delegates each. Prior to that, she lost eleven in a row, which is really what did her in.

:headbang:
rocktivity
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:44 PM
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26. Yeah, the caucuses were where Obama gained his PD advantage.
She won most of the primaries in the large states and the votes of more registered Democrats. Not contesting the caucuses was a mistake, though it's a crappy way to elect anyone. Caucuses are too disenfranchising in a modern society. Who the hell has the time to caucus?

Well, it is what it is.........

:shrug:
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 12:32 PM
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24. This is something I'll never forgive or forget...


Bush and his media sycophants guffawing and chortling about his not finding Iraqi WMDs while over 4,000 Americans and a million Iraqis lie dead...:grr:
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 08:11 AM
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27. Opinion as Fact
Is an overwhelming portion of so-called news reporting today.
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