Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

State budgets are in crisis. Thousands are dead in Mexico and the cartel violence risks entering the

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:28 PM
Original message
State budgets are in crisis. Thousands are dead in Mexico and the cartel violence risks entering the
U.S.

I fail to see how these issues aren't a 'priority'. The legalization of marijuana has direct and immediate implications in numerous problem areas right now.

You can disagree with legalization, but don't act as if there isn't a strong argument in favor of it beyond 'oh, those potheads just want to smoke without fear of being jailed'.

Not to mention the money saved by U.S. drug enforcement agents by allowing them to focus on the truly dangerous drugs and the implications of hemp legalization. Clearly legalization of marijuana won't end the cartels, but a big portion of their funding indeed comes from weed.

The problem with President Obama's remark is that it was dismissive of a serious argument that addresses serious problems many states and our federal government are facing today.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:31 PM
Response to Original message
1. Was LEGALIZATION made an issue during the campaign? Is it something Obama took a position on?
It is convenient to USE THE BUDGET CRISIS AND DRUG VIOLENCE as an excuse to legalize drugs but there are other solutions.

A major policy change, such as legalizing pot (WHICH I SUPPORT) is not going to happen without it being heavily discussed before it is even considered.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. Uh I haven't seen much heavy discussion with the people yet on anything.

It was convenient to use the Budget Crisis as a means of transferring wealth to Wall Street supporters of a winning candidate.


The nation's interests are not limited to what a winning candidate took a position on in an election cycle
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:41 PM
Response to Original message
2. I favor decriminalization and legalization of pot, but a cartel question - isn't cocaine their
Edited on Thu Mar-26-09 01:42 PM by pinto
major product, drug-wise? iirc, I read a BBC report that had it 3 to 1 by weight, which is a huge difference, in both product and money.

What they're actually selling doesn't seem to get mentioned much in the press - focus is, *understandably*, the killings along the border towns and the cartel wars.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:42 PM
Response to Original message
3. deleted
Edited on Thu Mar-26-09 01:44 PM by redqueen
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:56 PM
Response to Original message
5. I say eliminate the source
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 02:04 PM
Response to Original message
6. You think what is happening in Mexico is purely based on Marijuana?
Really? :wow:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bcoylepa Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. much more complicated
agreed - much more complicated than that - and lots of misinformation going round

here is pretty realistic article I think

http://open. salon.com/ blog/jan_ baumgartner/ 2009/03/25/ regarding_ mexico_biased_ news_half- truths_fuel_ paranoia

"Naturally, the handful of Mexican border towns, which are the areas experiencing the brunt of the wanton violence born of the illegal drug trade, have homicide rates that are not reflective of the country as a whole, but mirror the inflated numbers seen in the most violent U.S. cities and metropolitan areas.

We are told and indoctrinated to be “afraid of other” – to be fearful of the perceived unknown - Mexico, when in fact, we are far more likely to experience or witness a criminal act or be a victim of such in our own country."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 04:09 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. How does it feel not being able to read? It must be difficult for you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 02:12 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC