Presidential elections.

[guy]

In 4 of the last 5 Presidential elections, the American people gave the Democrats more votes than the republicans.

And in my opinion, 2004 was stolen.

This means 5 of the last 5

Yet the republicans tell us this is a center right nation ?

Just some perspective.

[AndyTiedye]

1. Democrats are the Center, Republicans are Far Right, There is no Left except DK & Bernie Sanders

Center-right seems about accurate. The left exists, but is all but excluded from American politics.

[iamthebandfanman]

3. yup, and what DU has become

is just further proof of the isolation of so called 'leftist' in the party.


this happens everytime the democratic party wins elections...

they flirt and dance with the left all the way up until the election, then its 'so long and thanks for the shoes'...


this is the reason why egotistical nuts like Nader are out there running on a third party platform.



if they want a repeat of 2000, and by that i mean taking away enough votes to change an election(or to make stealing an election more possible)... then i suggest they keep it up.

i will only be laughed at and attempts made to make a fool of me over my view points for so long by these so called 'moderates' (aka people who think politics is a game and issues dont matter just what team wins)....

just keep pushing my fellow democrats, and youll get your wish... we'll leave and you wont hafta deal with these pesky redical leftists anymore.

id rather leave this country than have to put up with morans always winning arguements because they represent a team and not the best interests of the american people.

its sad.
but something told me leading up to the election that this was going to happen.

but swallowed my pride, voted for obama to stop hillary... and then did what any logical person with half of a brain woulda done and voted against the republican in the general election.

hell, i hafta admit tho... even i was starting to buy into the hope message.

i hoped hed be different... be different than ANY president, not just bush... lets face it, anybody should have been able to have beaten the republicans... hell, anybody should have beaten bush back in 2004(but their machine making friends werent going to allow that)..

[Drunken Irishman]

2. Moreover, the last two Republican 'victories' have been extremely close.

The last three Democratic 'victories' have been blowouts (1992, 1996, 2008).

The Republican Party finds itself in a similar position the Democrats were in shortly after the 1988 presidential election -- not a national party.

This suggests the Republicans CAN get back to where they were before, but it's going to require a complete overhaul of their party and unfortunately for them, they're doing it totally wrong. They should not be running to the extreme-right, embracing cultural issues that divide, rather they need to plant their asses in the center, work on grabbing the Hispanic vote (which if they can't, will kill their party in the long run) and try to win back moderate Rockefeller Republicans who bolted the party in the 1990s.

If they don't do that, well what Mr. Sam Donaldson said on Bill Maher last night will prove to be 100% right: They'll become the party of rich old, white guys living in the south.

That isn't a national party.