Lookie there! The Republicans got themselves a health care plan

[DrToast]

As you might expect, it's awful.

Republicans in Congress are slated to unveil their health care reform plan on Wednesday, a proposal that relies heavily on private mechanisms, contains no individual mandate, and offers tax incentives for families and individuals to help pay for coverage.

(more at the link)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/20/republican-health-care-pl_n_205728.html

And it appears that Frank Luntz "wrote" the name of it: The Patients' Choice Act of 2009

[valerief]

1. I know what it is! Tax cuts if you travel to India for health care!

Am I right? Am I right?

[DrToast]

2. You donate to Pat Robertson and he prays for god to heal you. n/t

[valerief]

12. Ah, much better! And much more Republican! nt

[Deja Q]

3. As usual, they have no clue.

[mrcheerful]

4. Same as the old con plan, those that can afford to pay the insurance companies

and can afford to pay a doctor to perform treatments that the insurance companies deem unnecessary get health care those who can't afford it get nothing. One trick pony show as always, talk about new and improved by calling a shit sandwich ham on rye.

[TwilightZone]

5. Oh, good. More tax cuts, this time disguised as health care.

[rug]

6. It has graphics.

[and-justice-for-all]

17. LOL!!! SPOT ON!! nt

[napi21]

7. When in the hell are they going to get off the damn tax cuts crap?

Most people who don't have and can't afford HC are employed but don't make enough money to pay ANY income taxex! That was the same way it was with the HC Savings plans. If you don't have sufficient income to get beyond day to day needs, you sure don't have $$ to put into a HC savings plan, now do ya?

These Pubs are more of a PIA NOW than they were when Shrub was there!

[SIMPLYB1980]

8. "and offers tax incentives for families and individuals to help pay for coverage."

Isn't that a redistribution of wealth? Damn Socialist republicans!!!11!

[Occam Bandage]

9. The new, forward-looking GOP plan: tax cuts.

[snowdays]

10. The brief description almost looks like Sen Wyden's

[snowdays]

11. Read the entire article about the Wyden plan--He has lots of Repubs. on board:....

Forum Name General Discussion: Presidential
Topic subject I have an honest question about Health Care I've racked my brain but I can't come up with
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8420742#8420742
8420742, I have an honest question about Health Care I've racked my brain but I can't come up with
Posted by John Q. Citizen on Tue May-19-09 11:09 PM

an example.

Oregon Senator Ron Wydon (on the Senate Finance Committee) is emerging as a deal maker in the health care reform debate. He wants to dump the public option and do reform with private health insurance companies as the only payment providers.
Here is a link to the article from The Hill.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/wyden-is-winning-over-the-gop-on-healthcare-2009-05-18.html

Anyway, in the story they quote him saying:

"Democrats, he said, know the private sector must play “a significant role” to preserve innovation and cannot be saddled with price controls."

So here is my question; Can anyone name any innovation that private health insurance companies have come up with that deliver more health care for consumers for less money? Or better outcome health care for less money? Or more people covered for less money?

I can't think of any innovations that the health insurance industry has ever come up with that could conceivable be called progress as far as the consumer or the care providers (doctors, nurses,) are concerned. So that's why I'm asking for some help here.

The Senate Finance Committee staffers are coming to Montana on the 26th, 27, and the 28th, of May and doing listening sessions on health care reform, I may use my time to ask them about this. Any body have any good examples?

[sarah553807]

13. o yay,another picture book

:eyes:

[Cha]

14. Sounds Orwellian..like "clear skies initiative"

of whatever the fuck that year was.

[handmade34]

15. it is nonsense!

tax incentives? are they out of their minds? we have to fight for real reform

[and-justice-for-all]

16. Repuke Health Care Plan....

[HopeOverFear]

18. I *LOVE* this plan! It's SO MUCH better than Obama's!

:sarcasm:

[SoxFan]

19. Huzzah!