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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 04:04 PM
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Nancy Reagan sees dead people
CNN just reported that Nancy Reagan would like to advise Michelle Obama to have more State dinners and that she should have been invited to Obama's ceremony reversing the Bush Administration's policy on stem-cell research, a cause dear to her heart. Furthermore, Nancy Reagan says that she "sees and talks" to Ronald Reagan every day. Didn't she receive much criticism during the Reagan Presidency for consulting astrologers to plan her agenda?
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blueclown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 04:06 PM
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1. Why does the corpowhoremedia continue to give this crazy lady a platform? n/t
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 08:37 PM
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19. I wonder the same thing. She always surrounded herself with gay men, and
The Reagans did everything they could to deny those "friends" equality. We'll all get old, it doesn't magically erase our mistakes.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 04:06 PM
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2. The astrologers gave much better advice
than Ed Meese, for example ... :rofl:
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 04:10 PM
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3. Aw, leave her alone.
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 04:33 PM
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7. Right. She favors stem-cell research, and that's cool. Cut her some slack.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 04:21 PM
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4. Nancy Reagan is a lonely widow
in the last stage of her life. She was never a politician. Try a little compassion and mercy. You probably have a grandmother or greatgrandmother in a similar situation.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 04:24 PM
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6. Thank you. I loathed Ronald Reagan as much as I've ever loathed anyone,
but leave his elderly widow alone.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 04:40 PM
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9. Yeah.
I have an intense dislike for Reagan and bad memories of the Reagan years as well. But Nancy was never the cause or instigator of what he did. She's just a lonely harmless old lady at this point.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 05:12 PM
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11. OTOH, Reagan was an FDR New Deal Democrat
until Nancy got her claw into him.

He was a weak minded fool.

She is evil.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 06:12 PM
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12. Whaa??? n/t
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 06:02 AM
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22. Nancy's dad was a wealthy Republican doctor.
Ron was pretty much a broke actor with a very uncertain future at that time. He suddenly saw the light after meeting Nancy, (and her father's money) and became a Republican.

Money bought his soul.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 09:51 AM
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28. Well even before Nancy, Ronnie was a snitch to Hoover about alleged communism in Hollywood
and named names. He was also beginning to turn to the right politically by 1950 when he supported Nixon over Helen Gahagen Douglas for the Senate--this was prior to Nancy, I believe.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 04:24 PM
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5. Hey, give the lady a break.
She has been outspoken about her support for stem cell research and has gone against her party on this subject for some years now.

Nancy is my least favorite first lady of my lifetime, but fair is fair.

:(
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 06:14 PM
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13. Really?!?!?! "Least favorite?" More than Barbara Bush?
I don't remember Nancy saying anything as loathesome as when Babs said she didn't want to worry her "pretty little mind" with body bags and coffins.

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:07 PM
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15. Babs made her reprehensible remarks after she left the WH.
I was very young when Nancy was first lady, but I couldn't stand her. I was indifferent to Babs and her hubby. His presidency was a blur. I have no ill feelings for Laura, only in her poor choice of husbands. And Betty Ford I think was great, outspoken and real.

In general, I have tended to like the wives more than the husbands. Still do.

;-)
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 04:37 PM
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8. Nancy does not seem so bad in retrospect
And her stand on stem cell research should be applauded. Plus, she is old.
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shifting_sands Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 04:43 PM
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10. Nancy
I not only didn't care about Ronnie, I didn't care for Nancy, but she stood up for Stem Cell Research when it sure was not popular to do so. I admire her for that and believe she should have been invited. I don't think it was probably deliberate on the Obama's part, just a big social over-sight. I am sure the Obama's will answer her note graciously, and I sincerely hope they do, she deserves at least that. The slams against her are small and petty on this site, she is a very old and very lonely widow and she took care of her husband through some very difficult and exhausting years, for that alone she deserves some respect.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 06:15 PM
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14. Amen to everything you wrote! n/t
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:57 PM
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16. I thought Nancy Reagan WAS dead.
Maybe that's why she sees dead people? :shrug:
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 08:16 PM
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17. She used astrology to plan Ronnie's agenda as well as her own. n/t
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D-Lee Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 06:30 AM
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23. With a pretty good rate of success, too!
Take a look at the astrology and spirituality thread ... many DUers don't take a negative view of these subjects.

Just saying, if you are objective, some support on DU exists for her beliefs.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 10:04 AM
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29. I didn't say whether or not I believed in astrology.
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 08:20 PM
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18. So She Talks to Ronald Every Day
I actually think that's nice. She's an old lady and she's lonely...
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 03:59 AM
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20. Leave Nancy alone
so what if she talks to Ronnie. I dream about my dead loved ones and it makes me feel close to them almost as if I had a visit with them.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:12 AM
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21. I think she should have been invited to the stem-cell ceremony
She has been quite outspoken about stem-cell research, much to the chagrin of the GOP. Ronald Reagan, alas, is a symbol for many Americans, and she has swayed opinions on this issue.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 09:13 AM
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24. She's old. Let her have her peace.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 09:38 AM
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25. I thought she had been invited to the stem cell decision ceremony. She should have been.
Nancy Reagan has been in the forefront of insisting that embryonic stem cell research should be funded. She has spoken out on the issue a number of times, which is saying something, since Republicans don't normally speak out against the rank and file of their party.

Don't know about the state dinners thing. More state dinners than who?
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 09:41 AM
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26. For all I know, Ronnie is hanging around waiting for Nancy
I know for a fact there was true love between these individuals. IT's evident from Reagan's diaries.

I can make no claims, nor can I provide any evidence to either confirm or deny the existiance of a spiritual realm. I cannot dismiss the possibility, though.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 09:47 AM
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27. I think she should have been invited to the ceremony re: stem cell research--she has advocated it
and would have given it a bi-partisan tinge. As to talking to her deceased husband (and seeing him) if she wants to--it's not going to bother me.
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