Its knowin' what to throw away and knowing what to keep. The Obama strategy

[Peacetrain]

I think many of us, have been watching the last couple of days, and reflecting on the events of the last few months. From Lily Ledbetter, to the Somali pirates,(and when to fire and when not to) to the deescalation with Russians on those 10 long range missiles, with plans of putting up hundreds of short range that will actually work., The President is amazing in what he is accomplishing.

With a nod to "The Gambler".. this has got to be the new theme song for the Democrats.

:toast:






You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away and know when to run.
You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table.
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done.

[IndianaGreen]

1. What to throw away and knowing what to keep?

DADT? DOMA?

[Peacetrain]

2. Oh for the love of GOD.. can you please give a little credit

[IndianaGreen]

3. For the folks that are LGBT and that put so much effort in electing Obama

we kinda feel left high and dry.

[bigwillq]

4. ...

:thumbsup:

[dolphindance]

6. You're gay? (n/t)

[Phx_Dem]

8. Self-delete

[Phx_Dem]

7. What about it? You think he can do everything at once.

DOMA, DADT do not take precendence over the economy or healthcare, both of which directly affects every single American.

DOMA, DADT are important issues that will be dealt with -- probably next year -- but they affect a msmall portion of the country so they don't get proiroty over economy or health care. That's a nobrainer.

[IndianaGreen]

9. Your argument could have been applied to desegregation not taking precedence over the economy

Since when do human rights take a back seat to other political and economic issues?

[Phx_Dem]

10. If you had been out of work for a year and were in danger of

losing your unemployment insurance, what would be more imporant to you . . . finding a job or getting married?

Getting married is not a matter of urgency, people's ability to make a living is.

There is no credible argument that gay marriage is more important that pulling the country (and the world) out of the worst economic disaster since the 1930s. Gay marriage will be legalized, but it's just not more important than the economy and is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like segregation. Are you allowed to eat in a restaurant with straight people? Are you allowed to speak to a straight man without being beaten? Do you have to give up your seat on the bus for a straight man? Are there separate "gay" bathrooms in restaurants and public places?

[IndianaGreen]

11. Gays can be fired at will. LGBTs are not protect by Title VII.

You need to educate yourself about the issues that LGBT community faces every day.

[Phx_Dem]

12. Anyone can be fired at will.

And I'm not saying gay issues are not important, they are. But they do not take priority of an economy that was on the brink of absolutely disaster. To say otherwise, is absurd. Sorry.

[IndianaGreen]

13. Have you ever been fired, or not hired, for being hetero?

LGBT servicemembers are discharged solely because they are LGBTs. A nurse at our Saint Vincent Hospital was fired because he was gay, and the doctor that constantly harrassed him because of his orientation got off scott free. The federal courts sided with the hospital because sexual orientation is not a protected class under Title VII.

[Phx_Dem]

14. People get fired all the time for being too old, or too fat

SInce they can't legal fire you for being too old, fat, ugly, or gay, they simply make up another reason to fire you. Or they don't even bother to make up a rason because at-will employers don't need a reason to fire someone.

Go cry a river to all the 50-60 year olds who are losing their jobs every day because of their age. Or can't find a job because of their age.

[IndianaGreen]

15. Since you don't care about my LGBT rights, I won't care about your rights

Tit-for-tat.

[amandabeech]

17. Ben Bernanke?

[flyarm]

5. Pelosi Says “F*&k You” to Trumka and the AFL-CIO

Pelosi Says “F*&k You” to Trumka and the AFL-CIO
By: Jane Hamsher Saturday September 26, 2009 11:17 am
please read this in it's entirety............
http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/pelosi-says-fk-you-to-trumka-and-the-afl-cio/
snip;

It's notable that among the Change to Win unions, only the Teamsters came out against the Baucus bill. (Whoever sold Hoffa on ditching the public plan is no doubt talking fast and trying to explain why he is now being kicked in the face.)

Incoming AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka has been outspoken in his insistence on the inclusion of a public option in any health reform bill, and has threatened to withhold support from Democrats who won't vote for it. Over the past week there was a lot of winking in reports that the White House was leaning on progressive groups to drop their support for the public option. It absolutely did happen, but the use of the word "groups" is probably misleading -- the organization they are talking about, the only one that matters, is the AFL-CIO.

Since other unions outside the AFL-CIO are working the yo-yo on the trigger, Trumka is the lone holdout. He's the mainstay, and there is tremendous pressure building within the AFL in response to arm twisting from the White House for him to cave. And if he falls, it's going to be difficult for the rest of the veal pen not to follow suit. So, he's being directly threatened.

The message is clear: "Get in line or we pay for your precious 'public option' by fucking you on health care benefits."

If Trumka suddenly starts singing the praises of triggers (even if they instantly "yo-yo" it back and insist he was misquoted), you'll know it worked.

[depakid]

16. Turning out to be unwise to have kept Skank of America and Shitibank intact