Conrad, Lincoln, and Baucus just voted against Schumer's amendment.

[jenmito]

It failed 10-13. :eyes:

[MNDemNY]

1. Health reform is gasping it's last.

time for the fork?

[jenmito]

4. No. Just because there's no public option in Baucus's bill doesn't mean

it won't be in the final bill.

[joeycola]

6. put the sugar on it.

[jenmito]

10. Is what I said false?

[joeycola]

7. put the sugar on it.

[Zen Democrat]

5. Not at all. But Baucus, Conrad and Lincoln may be done.

I heard both Rockefeller and Schumer this week not concede they would lose in Finance, but say the PO had a chance there. However, both were fairly strong that the final bill going to the President would have a strong public option.

Baucus, Conrad and Lincoln - names that will live in infamy, for me!

[AspenRose]

2. The usual suspects...quelle surprise

I swear, sometimes I feel like these people are holding the party hostage.

[DrToast]

3. I wish someone would say: I'm going to vote for the PO because without it we don't have 60 votes

[truebrit71]

8. Good thing the Dems are the majority pa---oh wait...

Never mind :puke:

[smoogatz]

9. They were well paid for those votes.

Too bad they don't give a shit about their actual constituents.

[lumberjack_jeff]

11. On the bright side...

Maria Cantwell, today you don't suck.

[mvd]

12. Shameful, but it's not over yet

If Pelosi can pull things off in the House, then I believe the PO will be in the final bill.

[jenmito]

13. I agree...

Rockefeller and Schumer didn't expect their amendments to pass, but they're still hopeful a public option will be in the final bill.

[freddie mertz]

14. We are betrayed.

And pardon me if I suspect it goes higher than the puke Dinos on this committee.

[jenmito]

15. I suspect you're wrong. n/t

[dionysus]

16. it's all an evil conspiracy by obama to beat us down, didn't you get the memo?

lord we have the tin foil brigade going strong here...

[jenmito]

18. I suspect you're right.

:sarcasm: But sadly there are posters who DO believe that!

[freddie mertz]

24. Whatever, pal.

I admire your optimism and hope you are right.

Your resort to snark I admire a lot less.

[freddie mertz]

17. And I hope you are right.

But the ball is now squarely in Obama's court.

If he backs this bill, it will become HIS bill.

[jenmito]

19. But you suspect YOU'RE right.

Why?

[freddie mertz]

22. I WORRY that I am right.

I've been worried about the strength and depth of Obama's commitment to the public option for a while now.

He hasn't been as strong in public statements as he could have been in recent months, and I'm not sure how to read that.

[dionysus]

20. my cat peed on a blanket yesterday. the ball is firmly in obama's court to clean it up.

:eyes:

do you have any idea about how bills pass through the legislative process? because i have a feeling no matter what happens you'll be blaming obama for it.

[freddie mertz]

25. Yes. I do.

We shall see how it all works out, and again, I hope your optimism is more on target than my pessimism.


I also think there is no call for your lack of civility, but that seems to be a disease around here.

[mvd]

21. While you do have a point that he shouldn't support the Baucus bill..

that doesn't absolve Baucus, Conrad, etc. of blame.

[Thrill]

23. It really wouldn't bother me at all if Lincoln and Reid both got beat

.