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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 09:38 AM
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What, exactly, did Obama "lose" by pitching Chicago as an Olympic venue?
First, I would like to point out to both of these folks that the leaders of every nation attended. Did they all lose prestige, too? Is the “diminishment” of Spain’s head of state also good news for Republicans? And where did I find this little morsel of information?

Why, a little website called the POLITICO.

Second, if Chicago had won the bid, what prestige would the Presidency gain? New constitutional powers? Would he be addressed as “President and successful Olympics lobbyist Barack Obama” from here on out? Would this prestige pass on to future Presidents? Or just this White House?

Finally, what prestige did he lose? Did they take away the football? Will they no longer call him President? Will he have to give up Air Force One? Was he kicked out of the White House? Will members of his secret service detail think to themselves “Yesterday, I would have taken a bullet for him. Now, with the stench of defeat all over him, I’m not so sure.” What foreign leader who would have answered a call from the White House yesterday will today refuse because Chicago did not get the Olympics? Same for members of congress? Or fundraisers? If the White House said they would like for Ben Smith to conduct an interview, would Ben say “No thank you, your diminished status as President leaves me no choice but to decline.”

http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=27767

I also don't know why it diminished his political capital? Will somebody refuse to work with him because Chicago didn't get the Olympics? He could have brought back a brazillion jobs, and they would still criticize him.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 09:44 AM
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1. Lost? Nothing! Gained? Made Republicans look petty, again! n/t
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 10:33 AM
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11. If he didn't do it they would have attacked him for not going...
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 11:18 AM
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16. ding ding ding........n/t
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 09:45 AM
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2. What, exactly, did Obama "lose" by pitching Chicago as an Olympic venue? FACE nt
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 09:52 AM
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5. You're kidding, right?...n/t
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 10:45 AM
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13. Only to
Republicans, the media and those "progressives" who are happier then pigs in shit because Chicago didn't get the Olympics.

To those who don't want him to fail, we applaud his efforts as well as the efforts of the leaders of the other countries who weren't picked.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 11:20 AM
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17. This is foolish thinking. Reagan visited a Nazi S.S. cemetery, FGS. Dubya let N.O. DROWN.
Edited on Sun Oct-04-09 11:20 AM by WinkyDink
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 09:48 AM
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3. Those who criticize him are obviously "Anti American"
I said that very thing to a RWer who was making fun of Obama and his alleged failure at lobbying the IOC for the 2016 summer games in Chicago. The guy naturally got mad at me but that was the intent. That and to make him look stupid.
To answer your question, he probably won't be affected by this one way or the other. The IOC, which should stand for International Organized Crime, probably was leaning toward Rio all along. And while the Olympics in Chicago would have been nice, it may have also been a headache. Chicago, as well as the USA will survive the loss of something we never had and will move forward.
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 09:52 AM
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4. It is like what President Lula of Brazil said yesterday
And I paraphrase: Obama did not embarrass himself by going to Copenhagen. The US cannot win everything and Obama's presidency has 8 years to achieve many victories for the American people.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 09:57 AM
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6. the respect and admiration of beck, limbaugh and the tea baggers??
I'd have said he lost some measure of respect if he hadn't gone

Every other head of gov't/state went
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 10:11 AM
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8. lost the respect of the slime merchants?
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 10:10 AM
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7. Things like this drive more and more people out of the GOP
Normal people are aghast at their anti-American reaction. The more of this sort of idiotic crap, the merrier
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 10:13 AM
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9. Why are there still posts about this non-issue? nt
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 10:32 AM
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10. Agree completely!
While most of America shrugs its collective shoulders the GOP celebrates and gives themselves high-fives. It was worth a shot (a long shot at that) but, in having lost the bid, it is not the great victory the GOP thinks they have won.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 10:33 AM
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12. Nothing
Anytime Obama can promote this country on the world stage is a win-win.

Besides, you can't get anywhere without putting in the effort.

I always knew Chicago would be a longshot anyway, but that doesn't mean that Obama should have thrown in the towel. Hey, if his predecessor can go to China and hang out for four days goofing off at the Olympics, why can't our current president spend a day lobbying the committee?

This effort was not wasted.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 10:45 AM
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14. Waste of jet fuel
:argh:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 11:11 AM
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15. I don't think anything.
I was supportive in Obama's push to get the Games. Don't think there was anything wrong with it. It's not a failure that we didn't get the Games. It happens. It's a non-story, imo. We tried. We didn't get it. No big deal.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 11:34 AM
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18. Some points to throw back at naysayers
1) The bid was put in by Chicago

2) The bid was in 2006.

3) The bid was not initiated by Obama.

4) The presentation was not put together by Obama.

5) The presentation did not consist of just Obama and his wife.

6) What was in the presentation besides the Obama's?

7) The Olympic voters probably don't like Mayor Daley.

8) Mayor Daley probably doesn't have much of personality or imagination when making presentations.

9) It was Mitt Romney's responsibility to win the bid. He didn't bribe enough of the voters. That was why he wanted Obama to help in the presentation so he could shift the blame from him to Obama. *

* Well #9 is probably going too far.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 11:48 AM
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19. Who cares?
Why is this even an issue?
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 12:33 PM
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20. He didn't lose a thing. If anything, he won more hearts and minds.
Just speaking as someone who sees things from the European side of The Pond.
There are many reasons why this wasn't destined to be Chicago's year, and none of them relate to Obama's presence or absence.
But as the husband of a home town girl, it was sweet of him to go, and the gesture was mightily appreciated by those outside the US, to see that he would take the time and make the effort.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 12:43 PM
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21. The lesson is: "Never Try"
Edited on Sun Oct-04-09 12:44 PM by demwing
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 12:48 PM
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22. Well, to be fair, if Chicago did get the games...
it would've been touted by the Dems as a great victory for O. So you have to take the bad if you were ready to exploit the good. So basically, O lost face. Can't be denied.
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 12:51 PM
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23. The argument I read yesterday
was it proved he didn't have a deal with Russia before he canceled the missiles for eastern Europe. :rofl:
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 01:01 PM
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24. He gave it a shot, and that's good enough for me.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 01:47 PM
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25. Makes him Gain by realizing Republicans should not be bargained with
Edited on Sun Oct-04-09 01:49 PM by quantass
They are out to destroy him and with all these backlash events against him by them it is hopeful in time he will give up on them entirely and FINALLY embrace his party including the progressives so he can begin real change. America needs to get better and the road to that is for him to divorce republicans, not kiss their ring.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:00 PM
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26. Cokie Roberts said today on "This Week" that it was "bad judgment" for
Obama to go to Copenhagen without KNOWING the Olympics were in the bag for him. That's ridiculous. :eyes:
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