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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:57 PM
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NY Times: "Voices From Above Silence a Cable TV Feud" - Fox and NBC Coordinating Attacks On Dems?
Edited on Mon Oct-12-09 08:06 PM by TomCADem
In July, the NY Times reported about a secret meeting between General Electric and News Corp. The stated reason for the meeting was to call and end to the feud between MSNBC and Fox News. However, as we have seen, MSNBC and Fox still take shots at each other. Heck, today, MSNBC was practically playing re-runs of Fox News segments.

What has happened is that Fox News and MSNBC have increasingly started to attacking Democrats while giving Republicans a free pass. Tonight, for example, hardly a word was mentioned about Republican opposition to health care reform, and the focus was on Democrats and the White House, and how corporations are having significant influence on the health care debate. However, what about the Republicans? Why are they getting a free pass? It is almost as bad as the insurance industry report warning that health care reform will cause increased premiums, because the insurance industry is going to retaliate by raising premiums.

What we have seen in recent months is MSNBC and Fox starting to attack Democrats and the White House from both the left and right. Is this just a coincidence? Or, is General Electric/NBC using its media assets to also kill health care reform and climate change legislation by weakening support on the left while Fox News attacks from the right?

Fox says President Obama is a socialist who will kill business and MSNBC is pushing the meme that President Obama is a corporate shill even as U.S. Chamber of Commerce takes an increasingly aggressive approach toward the Obama administration. Sadly, the talking points start to coalesce and say the same thing: health care, climate change, financial regulations are all bad. From the right, its because it goes to far. From the left, because it does not go far enough. My take is that if the bottom line talking point is the same, then you know the same actors are pulling the strings, albeit from different ends of the political spectrum. If the right wing can be astro-turfed, why not the left?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/01/business/media/01feud.html

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It was a media cage fight, televised every weeknight at 8 p.m. But the match was halted when the blood started to spray executives in the high-priced seats.

For years Keith Olbermann of MSNBC had savaged his prime-time nemesis Bill O’Reilly of the Fox News Channel and accused Fox of journalistic malpractice almost nightly. Mr. O’Reilly in turn criticized Mr. Olbermann’s bosses and led an exceptional campaign against General Electric, the parent company of MSNBC.

It was perhaps the fiercest media feud of the decade and by this year, their bosses had had enough. But it took a fellow television personality with a neutral perspective to help bring it to at least a temporary end.

At an off-the-record summit meeting for chief executives sponsored by Microsoft in mid-May, the PBS interviewer Charlie Rose asked Jeffrey Immelt, chairman of G.E., and his counterpart at the News Corporation, Rupert Murdoch, about the feud.

Both moguls expressed regret over the venomous culture between the networks and the increasingly personal nature of the barbs. Days later, even though the feud had increased the audience of both programs, their lieutenants arranged a cease-fire, according to four people who work at the companies and have direct knowledge of the deal.

In early June, the combat stopped, and MSNBC and Fox, for the most part, found other targets for their verbal missiles (Hello, CNN).

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:01 PM
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1. Kick & Rec'd & I'll be back
to comment more. Thanks, for this, Tom.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:57 PM
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8. Ditto. n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:04 PM
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2. So they are talking to each other instead of just getting their talking points
both from the GOP?

and CNN, as well as the other two media giants (Disney and Viacom)
are all in on it.

As long as the GOP is the party of low to no taxes and deregulation,
you can bet your sweet ass that all of the media giants will conspire
to kill anything that might help this country and this President, period.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 09:20 PM
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11. The End Game May Be To Weaken White House Anti-Trust Opposition To A Sale Of NBC Assets To Fox
As reported by Reuters today, CNBC (owned by GE) reported that News Corp (Fox) is interested in buy NBC Universal. However, the White House would likely come out against the deal on anti-trust grounds. Thus, perhaps the two media entities can collaborate to weaken White House opposition to such a merger, though if that happens, the Democrats are definitely toast for the foreseable future with Rupert Murdoch owning NBC.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:06 PM
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3. Competition is bad for profits in oligopolies. nt
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:56 PM
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7. Whoa! News Corp (Fox News) Interested In Buying NBC From GE!!!
Edited on Mon Oct-12-09 08:56 PM by TomCADem
Wow, that was fast! So, now we know what those secret discussions in July were about!

http://www.reuters.com/article/industryNews/idUSTRE59B4Z520091012

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Rupert Murdoch's News Corp and John Malone's Liberty Media Corp are also interested in NBC Universal, though neither has approached GE so far, CNBC reported, citing sources.

News Corp, which owns the Fox cable network and local TV stations, had been seen as a less likely bidder, analysts have said, because taking a stake in NBC might raise antitrust concerns with the U.S. government.

Liberty Media has been seen as possible bidder for a minority stake in NBC Universal because of its history of taking minority stakes in big media companies.

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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:43 AM
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12. That would be terrible if Fox got a hold of NBC
How much longer before they buy out all the media?
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:06 PM
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4. Why are not the movies Norma Rae and Network on regular rotation of the TV networks.
Note that I agree people should not get angry, but should get involved with making things better.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:25 PM
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5. Fox and MSNBC on TV both target Dems; Drudge and Huffington Post both target them online.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 09:08 PM
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10. Huffington Post has turned into a shitty site
Not surprising considering the owner was Repuke.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:51 PM
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6. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 09:07 PM
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9. Perhaps it's
time for Keith and Rachel to speak out about this then move on to other things. I've noticed a not so subtle change in MSNBC as of late and this pretty much seals the deal.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:40 AM
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13. The New York Times: Still publishing bullshit. n/t
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:32 AM
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16. Is The Reuter Article About News Corp Being Interested In Buying NBC Also BS?
If so, what's the evidence?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:08 PM
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18. It's going to be Comcast:
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:43 AM
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14. MSNBC is FAUX news arm of General Electric
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:44 AM
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15. That was a bullshit article when it was published, and it's still bullshit. NT
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:57 AM
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17. Who is recommending old, bullshit "news" stories for the "greatest" page??
Olbermann discussed this all back in August. It's 100% BS.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:26 PM
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19. What Is BS? The Meeting Or What Was Discussed At The Meeting?
I thought Olbermann only denied that he had been muzzled. He did not deny that a meeting between Fox and MSNBC took place. If such a meeting took place, what was discussed?
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