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Nimble_Idea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 07:09 PM
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Fight the Good Fight, No matter what state your in!
Never give up and try to win it like it's the state that will decide the election! Even if you live in Texas!! :)
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 07:11 PM
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1. I am! I live in Indiana and I'm doing everythign I can! eom
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GetaKungFuGrip Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 07:23 PM
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2. Agree. Check it out, please!
I was late to a Bday party last night...because I was watching the debate. The party was for one of my wifes friends. ALL of my wife's friends are Repubs. When they asked where I was at, she told them I was watching the debate. Their answer?
"Watching the debate? What? Is he a Democrat or something?"
I hope these folks don’t vote. What a commentary on what it takes to be a Republican!

WAIT! There is more!

Went to lunch with my bosses boss today, along with 12 others.
The big boss and I arrive at lunch first, and we sit down.
He asks if I watched the debate.
"Of course" I say.
"What did you think?" He asks. I know he is a hardcore repub, ditto head, liberal media hater, etc, etc., but he is one of my bosses.
I decide to play it cool, and say both guys got their messages accross, and the differences between the candidates are much clearer last night. Fair enough, I think.

Well, he admits Bush got beat last night, but that only proved that Kerry is a better debater, and not better President material. Whatever! (to myself)

He then explains: "The whole world believed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. To say in hindsight that we were unjustified to go into Iraq is disingenuous, and shows poor character." I say the whole world did not believe this, and he says that this is a well known fact, and looks at me as though I am stupid.

Basically, I wasn't getting anywhere. I must have missed something somewhere if the "whole world agreed that Iraq had WMD's". When has this ever been disclosed.


WAIT! There is more! It gets better!

At this point I feel like throwing a jab in. I must Preface it, so bear with me!

See, he knows I volunteered to go to Iraq in March 2003 - he approved my military leave, and everyone in the company supported me going. (Yep – a liberal Iraq Volunteer – take that freepers!)
I joined an Army reserve unit, the 244th Combat Engineers (HVY) out of FT. Collins CO, because they were deploying to Iraq. I wanted to go – my wife is still pissed at me!

I am a 54B - Nuclear Biological Chemical Specialist. I had been an inactive reservist before joining - IRR status if you know what that means.
Anyway, within hours of signing up with these guys, Army Personnel (or whatever they are called) decides to cross level me into another unit – a chemical decontamination unit out of South Dakota, and they send me to Ft. McCoy WI to hook up with them.
I flew to WI on St. Patricks day 2003. When I get there, I get cross leveled AGAIN into – and this is the kicker – a CHEMICAL RECON UNIT. Get it? THOSE ARE THE GUYS WHO LOOK FOR WMD’s! 704th Chemical Recon, Arden Hills MN.
I get trained as a machine gunner in a line platoon – my job was to provide security while my colleagues ran the chemical detection equipment. That was my Iraq war job.

Back to the boss – I tell him, after he tells me that the whole world agreed Saddam has Wmd’s, that if we were so certain Iraq had WMD’s, how come we never found them, and that furthermore, HOW COME UNITS LIKE MINE NEVER EVEN WENT TO IRAQ TO LOOK FOR THEM?

See, after all of the bouncing around, the unit I ended up with NEVER SHIPPED TO IRAQ. That’s right! The 704th never even got a chance to look for WMD’s!
We ended up spending the 7 weeks during “official” combat operations at Ft McCoy, and then shipped (drove, actually) to Ft Lewis WA. Our new war time mission?
Driving ROTC cadets around to training all summer with school busses, and “cattlecars.”
Yep, instead of performing a mission I had trained 10 years for, and that supposedly “the whole world” agreed needed to be done, my colleagues and I sat the war out.

I asked my boss why this was. His response?

“What? You think there was a conspiracy? Maybe you weren’t good enough.”

He managed to get the whole table (about six had joined us at this time) to laugh at that one. I guess it’s OK to make fun of soldiers if they are democrats.

What do you guys think? Don’t sugarcoat it!
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