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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:49 AM
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Slate pronounces Edwards the winner..."cleaned Cheney's clock"
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 07:57 AM by Dob Bole
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:50 AM
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1. He and Sully were great on CSpan this morning.
Another beautiful morning to wake up as a Democrat. :hi: Cheney's lies will far overshadow any composure win.
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:04 AM
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4. Exactly!
Cheney kept Edwards on the defense for a good part of the night and was just an aggressive, evil bastard. The lies he told to do so, however, will be his undoing. Amazing... I figured the media would let him pass on this.

Sorry, Darth Dick. You may as well go back to your underground coffin while you still can.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:06 AM
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5. Who was on c-span with
sully? And do you remember any juicy things they said?:)

Just thought I'd post this from the article appopro of how Good Edwards was..

"Most Democrats, including Kerry, duck and cover when Republicans bring up values. Not Edwards. He knows the language and loves to turn it against the GOP. The word "moral" was used twice in this debate. The word "value" was used three times. All five references came from Edwards. He denounced the "moral" crime of piling debt on our grandchildren. He called the African AIDS epidemic and the Sudan genocide "huge moral issues." When Ifill asked him about gay marriage, he changed the subject to taxes. "We don't just value wealth, which they do," said Edwards. "We value work in this country. And it is a fundamental value difference between them and us."

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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:15 AM
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7. William Saletan. The juiciest was that Cheney made two big mistakes.
Denial of his 9/11-Iraq connection drawing...and saying that he had never met Mr Edwards until he walked on the stage.

Also, Mr Cheney thanked Gwen but not Mr. Edwards. In my opinion, that was a slap that was heard around the country. And Mr. Cheney will pay for it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:16 AM
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14. Ooooouuuuu! Thank you!
cheney is RUDE SOB just like his chimppuppet.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:24 AM
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9. Yes...
I'm glad that we're starting to have beautiful mornings as Democrats again.

It's been a while.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:55 AM
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2. Wasn't it interesting...
That Cheney only mentioned Bush once or twice? I only heard once, but I had a situation come up in the middle of the debate so I may have missed it.

Edwards did what a VP candidate should do: Boost up the Presidential nominee. Edwards mentioned Kerry's name more times than I could count. I love someone who can set his ego aside like that.

Cheney was too arrogant to mention Bush's name like that. He didn't tell us why we should vote for Bush, he pretty much was trying to scare us into voting for him.

Also, Cheney seemed to be the one on the defensive, not Edwards. Considering Edwards has only had a few short years in politics, and Cheney has had decades of experience, you'd expect MUCH better from Cheney, but we didn't get it, did we?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:02 AM
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3. BEAUTIFUL!
cheney was suppose to build up the chimp on his record...Big HA!
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:08 AM
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6. This is a great article
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 08:12 AM by nickinSTL
Goes over a lot of Edwards' points.

on edit: The article by William Saletan on Slate is a great article. Forgot to mention which one. :D
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:23 AM
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8. Funny. When I said the same thing last night, numerous DUers disagreed
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:41 AM
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10. I think it had to do with MSNBC
They're the only network that did post-debate analysis last night, and declared Cheney the winner.

Everybody else finished up this morning...and declared the opposite.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:46 AM
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11. Yeah, but remember what Tweety said on night 2 of the RNC
...worked up into a lather over the dynamic posturing of the mighty Republican party, Matthews declared "this election is OVER" (meaning "Bush has it in the bag").

He's going to need a BIG box of Kleenex and some quiet healing time on November 2nd.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 08:48 AM
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12. He said that? Bastard!
Too bad he doesn't work for the government...that means he's going to keep his job after Nov. 2.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:17 AM
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15. You were right on
Hardhead! :toast:
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 09:32 AM
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13. Is'nt SLATE a LIBERUL magazine?
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 09:45 AM by oc2002
Thats all the right wingers have to say about that article....is it right?

Or that William Saletan is a partisian hack, maybe...although he does attack the chimp pritty hard. Anyone know if Mr Saletan is left of center?
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:25 AM
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16. Saletan's piece is great--fact-filled and right on target. Everyone
should read it. Thanks for the link!
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