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Mikeystyle Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:33 PM
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Prop 19 fans surprised to have missed the election
Maybe this is the reason it failed? ;p

Although a ballot initiative to legalize marijuana in California failed on Tuesday, thousands of its supporters were still trying to find their polling stations or figure out how to vote in the days following the election. The measure, known as Proposition 19, was rejected by 53.9 percent of the vote.

“Woah dude, you mean I can’t vote anymore? Don’t they like give us some kinda grace period?” said Ken Stafford, a junior and psychology major at the City College of San Francisco. “My teachers usually give me a coupla days extra to get a paper in, especially if I cough and act like I got a cold or something. I figured I’d get to voting sometime next week.”

Stafford was not alone. Prop 19 supporters have been showing up at closed polling places, courthouses, Department of Motor Vehicles offices and any place with an official look to it—such as buildings with marble exteriors.

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http://www.thechicagodope.com/2010/11/04/prop-19-fans-surprised-to-have-missed-the-election/
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Blacksheep214 Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:36 PM
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1. Dude?
That's the face they put on this measure to defeat it.

Personally I think the story is a load of crap!

Stoned doesn't equal stupid! Drunk on the other hand, does!
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:38 PM
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2. So then why did it lose?
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Blacksheep214 Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 04:02 AM
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4. Same old story
Exagerate the negatives and convince people the law is poorly written. Add AG Holder threatening increased enforcement, (they can't stop the gangs so go after pot) and enough voters say no.

Reefer Madness is still alive! Be afraid! Hide the children!
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:46 PM
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6. Look at the industries that lose $
if it is legal. Prisons, prison guards make nice $, the tobacco and alcohol industries don't want competition and of course, the dear cartel and the overcharging growers certainly didn't want people to now longer need them. Follow the $ trail. It's always about the money...

What I do not understand is how people can want to lock up potheads which costs CA a fortune and not go for something that could bring revenue to a cash-strapped state. I will never understand irrational thinking...
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:48 AM
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3. LOL!
"...Department of Motor Vehicles offices and any place with an official look to it—such as buildings with marble exteriors." :rofl:

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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:21 PM
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5. Its more Bullshit spin
This was a hidden victory for the Cannabis movement for legalization..
With 47% of the Voting population of California who voted to legalize..
This was a huge victory Politically..
Just getting this to the voters was a major task in itself.....
The future is much brighter today for Cannabis...
This is not the end but the start to move this forward and change the status...
The people who voted yes are the Voters who are opened to truth and tired of the Lies...
They want a Country based on truth... Not Bullshit used to slice, dice, separate, Prosecute, and remove anyone who would disagree politicaly...
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 10:41 PM
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7. I wish I could rec your post
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:37 AM
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8. Good post!
Too late to unrec. but :thumbsdown: to the OP for perpetuating the Reefer Madness mythology.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-10 10:47 AM
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10. Thank you, Irishonly! You got it!
And I would add, look to the voting machines!

Even in California, even with a good Sec of State, even with Dems getting elected, we STILL have a nearly totally NON-TRANSPARENT vote counting system, run on 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY programming code, owned and controlled largely (80% nationwide) by ONE, PRIVATE, FAR RIGHTWING-CONNECTED CORPORATION--ES&S, which just bought out Diebold.

What this means is that far rightwing corporate moguls can play our system like a piano. They have the easy--EASY!--ability to fix virtually any election in the country, including California's elections. Nationally, they can put an inexperienced Dem in the White House to start taking the blame for the Bush Junta's horrendous thievery, mismanagement and war crimes, inflict him with a 'Blue Dog'/Puke infested Congress, and, combined with the corpo-fascist 'news' narrative about his "failure," prepare for Bush junta II. Thus, the horrors of the Bush Junta get blamed on the Democrats. And they can do something similar in California. They HAVE the capability and power to do this. Whether they've done it or not is anybody's guess because nobody--and I mean NOBODY--can say with certainty who actually won any election in the U.S.

I think that the 2003 CA recall (with 125 candidates on the ballot) was fixed. (I think that that is the real reason that Sec of State Kevin Shelley was driven from office, with all the Dems in the legislature hiding under their desks--because Shelley had sued Diebold and demanded to review their source code, six months before the 2004 (s)election). I think that the anti-gay marriage vote was fixed. I think the MJ vote was fixed (mainly because the war profiteers count on the failed, corrupt, murderous U.S. "war on drugs" as their backup boondoggle to war itself and for nazifying our society and others' societies). I think Obama did win--on the hope of the American people for social justice and peace--but also that he was PERMITTED to win; his mandate was shaved and he was inflicted with a bad Congress, in case he had any illusions about real reform. I think this of Jerry Brown as well--he won, but he was also PERMITTED to win. California's economic situation is similar to national conditions in 2008--a set up for the "liberals" to take the blame, to prepare for installation of an even worse regime in the future. In California, a lot of this has to do with Enron's theft of California's entire government surplus ($10 billion!) back in 2001 (making the lawsuits go away, covering it up, creating terminal forgetfulness), in order to begin the dismantling ("drowning in the bathtub"--Grover Norquist) of the most progressive state in the union.

But, again, my theories about these developments--which are based on detailed study of our election system, election results and related matters--are not really the point. The point is that WE DON'T KNOW--we CAN'T know--who or what won the majority of votes in any election. We are barred, by law, from reviewing the 'TRADE SECRET' code by which all of our votes are tabulated. And even in California the audit/recount controls on this system are pathetic. Until 'we the people' correct this--throw out these 'TRADE SECRET' voting machines and restore vote counting IN THE PUBLIC VENUE--we don't really have a democracy.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:57 PM
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9. LOL.
Funny. :thumbsup:
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