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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:43 PM
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Retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark said Sunday that the Bush administration's
foreign policy is undermining the nation's support for its military

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Clark also voiced strong support for Democratic National Committee head Howard Dean, who has been criticized for comments attacking Republicans.

here's the link:

http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050613/NEWS0201/106130013/-1/CITIZEN
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Paul Dlugokencky Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:46 PM
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1. good man
He has credibility on military issues, that's for certain. Real glad he is publicly supporting Dean as Chair.

Sounding like someone who might be running in '08?



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downwitbush Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:50 PM
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2. not really
wes clark won't run for President in 08. We saw how he did in the last election; he ran yknow.

However, this may have set him up for a VP run. That would be a good possibility.
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:51 PM
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3. I agree, I like him. Feels very credible and obviously coming to NH
to build name recognition.
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:19 PM
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4. emphasizing the military
didn't work out so well for us in 2004. I'd suggest emphasizing the time honored Democratic issues - health care, Social Security, education, housing, jobs - those are the areas we'll win on.

We won't win with a former lobbyist for defense contractors, conveniently turned Democrat in order to run for president.
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 04:29 AM
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5. I actually like his positions, but thanks for chastising me for having an
opinion that is different from yours.
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:04 AM
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6. puhlease
That mild commentary was hardly chastisement, but thanks for reminding me of Clark's sacred cow status.
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Paul Dlugokencky Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:33 PM
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8. Moo!
Sacred cow to some, not all.



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FightinNewDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:44 AM
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7. Gotta disagree with you to a point...
I'll grant you that economic issues are our bread and butter; that's where our party still has its greatest appeal.

However, if we don't come up with a reasonably credible alternative message on matters of national defense, foreign policy and homeland security, we won't be able to move the discussion to the issues where we hold the strongest cards. If we simply cede the security issue to the other side, we won't be able to pass a threshhold credibility test with a lot of folks.

Now, as for Clark's lobbying, I'm not going to touch that issue...frankly, though, I think his long military service (and the difficult lifestyle that goes along with it) outweighs whatever missteps he may have made over the last couple of years.

Damn, and I wasn't even a Clarkie...
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 09:04 PM
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9. hmmm
I can agree with you to a point - but I knew the minute I heard Kerry say, "John Kerry reporting for duty" that he was dead in the water.

It would not be possible for me to ever support Clark, but I'm not going to elaborate on that. I would hate to see the NH forum turned into a Clark fest. Anyhow, FightinNewDem, you know very well that you're a whole lot more moderate than I am.
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FightinNewDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 09:11 PM
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10. Hmm hmm hmm
"you know very well that you're a whole lot more moderate than I am."

Well, yeah, I sort of had that impression ;)

On the other hand, have you ever been arrested for a cause? You'd be surprised who has been! :hippie:
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 09:32 AM
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11. yep
Over a dozen times, in fact. I was on a first name basis with most of the Seabrook PD back in the eighties. The chief used to joke that he had a stack of summons already made out with my name on 'em.
:spank:

So, what did you get arrested for, you hippie?? ;)

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FightinNewDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 12:50 PM
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12. My insufficiently sordid past
South African Embassy, November, 1985. It was quite the afternoon. Randall Robinson (the rganizer of the anti-apartheid protests), the American University Young Democrats and a pair of Catholic priests and a few parishioners from a parish in suburban Virginia.

Naturally, the charges were dropped...
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