Texans Uneasy with Iraq War

[Servo300]

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Texans Uneasy with Iraq War

Sun May 23, 5:49 PM ET


A new poll of Texans finds a majority still agreeing with the decision to go to war in Iraq (news - web sites), even though a majority is also unhappy with the way the war is currently going.

[jay-3d]

1. Texans

There are some anti bush Texans. like 30 percent of us. It's very hard for us here. after 911 I was scared to speak my mind.

[wtmusic]

2. That's the problem

The war is 'currently going' the way it is exactly because of the 'decision to go to war'.

[liveoaktx]

3. Probably because they think Saddam tied with 911

Put something in your local newspaper, in the classified section, won't cost much, that has Bush's quote about how Saddam and 911 have no connection.

[indigobusiness]

4. Texas used to be Yellow-dog Democrat...

What the hell happened?

[NoPasaran]

5. The Right Wing Democrats crossed the aisle

and they're the Rethugs now. Texas was no progressive paradise when it was a one-party Democratic state.

[indigobusiness]

6. It was around Austin

It WAS a progressive paradise.

[indigobusiness]

7. How long have you been in Austin?

And how much damage do you think was done by the redistricting?

[cjbuchanan]

8. I've been here 10 years

and a lot of damage has been done by redistricting.

We no longer have a representative in the house. No voice means bad things.

Just look how the state hits Austin every chance it gets.

[indigobusiness]

10. That was my guess...

I headed for the hills years ago.

Sad state of affairs.

[NoPasaran]

9. I've been in Austin for 16 years

I also lived here for a couple of years back in the late Seventies when Austin really was a hip cheap place to live. Growth has done more damage to Austin than redistricting so far. Mind you I'm pissed as hell over redistricting. I live in a rethug state rep district where the dems aren't even bothering to run a candidate; a rethug state senate district anchored in San Antonia; and after the last round of Perrymandering I ended up "represented" in Congress by rethug idiot Lamar Smith.

[indigobusiness]

11. I moved to Austin in the Spring of '71...It was truly paradise...

I stayed for a couple of decades, in and around...but it has been a tragic spectacle to watch the transformation. I'm a couple of lakes upstream, now...and I loathe going into the city.

[NoPasaran]

12. In El Paso we'd hear tales about Austin

That made it sound like the Land of Oz. I finally made it out here towards the end of the Armadillo Era and found out they were mostly telling the truth. Of course oldtimers would tell me that the wave had already broken and the best things had already happened...

[indigobusiness]

13. I lived a few blocks up the hill from the Armadillo...

man, that was a helluva place. Incredible music venue, and on off nights, the beer garden was idyllic....great nachos.

I'm getting all misty.

Austin, for me, is like a lost love.

[argyl]

17. The Armadillo.That really brings back memories.I was at the opening;

Leo Kottke was the very first act.It was ungodly hot and they didn't even have a license to sell beer.We all brought our own.Austin was a paradise in the late 60s and early 70s;you could live dirt cheap and if you couldn't find anything fun to do you either had no sense of adventure or no pulse.
Saw so many great acts there;Van Morrison really stands out.Originally slated to play Friday and Saturday,he came into town on Thursday and wound up playing every night from Thursday till Monday.
Way back when there was a spot on the Colorado called Hippy Hollow.It was a de facto nude beach,although it was illegal in Texas.The cops would show up but it was to chase away asshole boaters and they left us alone.
Nude bathing may still be illegal in Texas but Texas road signs point the way to Hippy Hollow(yep,that's what the signs say)and instead of picking your way through the rocks to the beach there is now a wooden landing to get you there.

[Lithos]

14. You are around my time there

I too remember what it was and what it is now. Long road, some really great things are gone, some really good things are new.

To jog your memory, remember The Vulcan Gas Company? The Short Horn? The Stallion? the Split Rail and The One Knight?

L-

[amber dog democrat]

15. Been here since '72 - but planning to leave.

Right after my discharge from the Navy.
I remember Austin before Mopac.
This town was wonderful then.

Flapjack Canyon? Mooreburgers? Hectors Taco Flats? Spellman's? Alamo Hotel?
Mount Bonnell before all the development? The LCRA Comanchee trails park while it was still free? The ScoPro Lounge, ( 10 cent beers all day with your scholastic probatoin notice ) .
And of course the Armadillo, and all those wonderful posters that Kerry Awn used to produce. Rome Inn? ( there used to be parties aftehours up stairs )

Its gradually progressed into a town I now longer have a deep connection to.
I am probably leaving in 3 or 4 years.

[Lithos]

16. LOL

Flapjack Canyon and Rome Inn, yeah.. No to the other establishments. You forgot Liberty Lunch and Mother Earth's. How about Nancy Griffith playing for free at the Hole in the Wall? Or Stevie Ray playing to less than 10 people at either the Continental Club? Or Conans Pizza being one of the few places you could buy the Fabulous T-birds debut album? Clubfoot with it's rather interesting bathrooms?

Also add Academia Waltz and Eyebeam for cultural items now missing. (Got to admit for awhile there, the Daily Texan had a homegrown comic section which beat every other campus paper). Oh and Wonder Warthog for the underground set.

Yes, I remember going Mount Bonnell when it was barely a single lane road. Also remember when there was a Barton Creek (ie when water used to flow in it year round) and you could raft it almost the whole direction, go swimming in Campbell's Hole and not have to worry about bacterial or heavy metal poisoning.

*sigh*, but then again, I would miss going to buy books at the "The Book People" or my records at Waterloo's. Visiting Esther's Follies, seeing the bats under Congress Avenue Bridge, the Hike and Bike Trail in general, or the O'Henry Punoff. The Broken Spoke is still around as well. And while Eeyore's has changed, it is still a good party. Plus in the Spring time, there is NOTHING which beats the drive from Austin to the LBJ ranch.

[texastoast]

19. You are missing one, no two

Cisco's on the East Side before they got their liquor license. Early on Sunday mornings it was THE place to go order a red or an orange and some migas.

And the Soap Creek Saloon before it got popular. What a place to watch the sun go down with a cold beer from the Kelvinator.

I miss the old Austin of 150,000. Perfect. Just a perfect place.

[argyl]

18. The One Knight.Monday night was Jimmy Vaughn's band Storm's night.

On Eighth and Red River.Remember one night a guy poked his head in and said loudly,"If anyone's interested Johnny Winters is jamming at the Waterloo Social Circle".It was just down the street so away we went.I remember The Vulcan Gas Company;Johnny played there and I believe TheThirteenth Floor Elevator did as well.
Anoter great joint was Soap Creek Saloon, on Bee Caves Road.
Was The Split Rail just north of 17th on Guadeloupe?