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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:03 PM
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What about Craig
Edited on Wed Sep-05-07 03:12 PM by Wash. state Desk Jet
Comes down to a pice of paper!There was a y-tube flick about Falwell ,where it is a cartoon was created about a hate base thing which came down to a rock in the middle of the road ,two religious icons arguing over who hates what more comming down to a rock.

In Craigs case the Idaho senator it comes down to a pice of paper which Craig says was there and the law inforcement officer -with a college degree says was not!
Craigs case centers around some fancy foot work in a public restroom at the airport in Minn.

No doubt the senator is directly in the middle of a Bi right dispute.
Craig says a pice of paper was there and that,s what he was reaching for, not something else .

The law inforcement officer says that,s a lie and the senator was sending signals in the form of a foot morris code directly indicating the senators disire to engage in sexual contact, in the airport mens room toilet stall.

It seems clear here now that those republicans are stuck in stall mode as a whole - which may or may not have to do with the senators dilemma, where it is he is stalling around debating with himself and friends on rather or not to resign.The stall mode is like running into one stop light after another and on into continuos where it may seem the day is out to get you. This stall mode has been a thing of happening for the republicans for years on end.

And it seems Craig got himself caught within it.
Odd as it is ,he does not believe it.

Bi Right Guy, James West did not believe it either.
Brian Doyel -homeland security-Florida did not
And Tom Foley U.S. congressman -Florida did not.

The mystery of a invisable pice of paper!
So hay! what was it-? Was it s little memo the size of a sticky note? Was it a 3x,s five inch? Was it yellow? Was it white? Was it pink? Was it blue? Just one of many questions the senator must clairify.
It must have been terribly important for the senator to reach under there for it-if it was there,or was it there?

Perhaps it was part of a list,Indeed Craigs list!
Was it a name? If it was ,are there more?

What about jet lag? Could be the senator thought he saw a pice of paper !
If he hadn,t plead guilty to a lesser seeming thing of a sort ,jet laggee might have worked!

Anyway ,I am much more interested in Craigs list and what may or may not be in it!

Craig may have been thinking a little too fast for his own good ,I think it,s more about what he wanted to be there not what he says was there.

The buffer zone bridge just caved in on old Craig.It just wasn,t there.And that,s what it will come down to.
It just wasn,t there.

So the question really is,- Is Craigs list really there!
and if so,who,s in it!!!



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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 12:13 AM
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1. I say that if Craig has to resign--
so does Vitter the Shitter of Louisiana.
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 02:33 PM
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2. The Goose ,The Gander!
At the tables in this game of cards there are elements to be examined.

First of all lets look at James West,who was the republican majority leader in the state house of representives -or was that minority?
As Mayor of the secound largest city in the state of Washington ,West fell to allegations connecting him to sexual misconduct and abuse of power of the office of the mayor .

As you may well know West pawned it all off to holky polky nonsense and flew of to N.Y.C. and turned up on Good Morning America the nationally televised morning news gossip show. Why there was James West plain as the light of the day in total denial on national television ,I believe he said (They) the peoples of Spokane just love me, my e. mails are comming in two to one in favor of my staying put.

West did not believe it was real-the fact that he got caught. Odd as it was because he-,West was so flamboyent and down right defiant such as a total unrulely adolescent that will do whatever ,whenever with total disreguard to consequences util after the dirty deeds are done ,at which point the kid goes into a state of denial.In fact swares it never happened.

Than West continued on in his pattern of flight to avoid confronting his missdeeds to the republican national convention in Forida whereupon he basked himself in the republican lime light still in total denial about what was happening back in Spokane. Odd, isn,t it?

Now I know Bi Right Ross over there at the Seattle Times has ordered this thing to be put to bed,but Seattle is becomming a twenty four seven town ,so nobodys sleeps!Perhaps Bi Right Boss the Seattle Times Editor will do a Sunday pice on his version of putting news to bed.Ain,t that repunlican!

The point being West got caught ,knew he would, but when he did ,he didn,t believe it.
In fact after he was removed from office- By The People, West went further into denial and set goals for a political come back. How odd is that?

Well, I,ll tell ya, that,s that behavioral pattern of a predator.
All in part of how it is they operate.
So than establise there is predator and there is pray.
Of course West will have viewed himself as the pray who became victimized by those predators.
Isn,t that odd?

So what does a madam provide? Hot commoditys right? The call girl in D.C. is a hot commodity. So the crime on the part of Vitter is buying goods illegally. He purchased the services of a prostitute threw a illegally run prostitution business. As I understand it Navada is still the only state that has legalized prostitution. OK so Vitter broke the law,it,s just that simple.

Are the two cases comparable?

OK, in Vitters case which one is the predator and which one is the pray?

And in Craigs case- which one is the predator and which one is the pray.

Let,s call that for openers in this card game.

That,s What I say!

Than lets just compare James West,s brand of denial to Craigs to find the similarity in predatorial behavior .

Because after all, it,s the predators game that is up.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 11:11 PM
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3. I guess the difference is that Vitter was willing to pay cash--
--and West and Craig wanted freebies.
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 05:42 PM
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4. I,ll take two from the deck!
Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 05:46 PM by Wash. state Desk Jet
It seems of the many allegations James West fell subject to -,although none were actually proven in a court of law -,at the same time the persons that came forword and gave written depositions about just what transpired between theirselves and James West was most likely never fully investagated.

Now it seems James West (may) have been offering jobs within the citys employ in exchange for sexual favors.
The allagations go on to indicate something further where it is a reporter for the Spokane newspaper who as it so happens is a homosexual that has ties to youth problems
threw some type of organization or other which involved teenagers -minors and West as it seems showed disires in this given area. Although the reporter at the time was not aware of West,s intentions. The reporter was offered a political appointment by West-,a paying job threw a political appointment.

This than indicates that West was more of a paying type as you say you would guess the differance is that vitter was willing to pay and West and Craig were looking for freebe,s.

But than there is the possibility of Craigs very own list which may have to do with Craigs excursions -you might say unrecorded by anyone other than Craig himself -or so he may think, his meetings with others such as himself of ocasion. Perhaps garden varities.

Spectalated view to it ,but it does present certain odds of a sort.

It may be the heat is on in such a way that Craig was somewhat pressed for a out. Which means everybody in Washington D.C. is under the spot light where it is professional behaviour is being monitered.
The inbetween planes at the airport in Minn.to Craig may have seemed to him like the Last Chance Saloon.The distance between there at the time and the next chance in a differant point of time for Craig may have seemed way too far away. A pannic stricken sort of a thing.

At any rate West would seem to be more of the paying type.
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:41 PM
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5. Similarities Craig-West
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 02:52 PM by Wash. state Desk Jet
Craig believes that the blame for his troubles is because of newspaper jounalist,s that are out to get him.
He call,s it a witch hunt.

Thats exactly what West said.
West is exception however because he attributed his bazzar behaviour reguarding his obscene approach in initating encounters with young gay man -rather forcefully in a rather odd sort of way to his struggle to come out of the closet.
And of course West was long since devorced and had no marriage vows to consider or children for that matter of his own.

Non the less Craigs view in it is about the same as West,s was after having been confronted with the facts.
West believed (they) were out to get him.

Which is just what Craig says he believes.

Craig says he signed the guilty plea in the hopes that the thing would just be washed under.

Seem familar? I would imagine MaGavic thought along the same lines with his drunken driving charge back there in the district of Columbia or was that the Baltimore thing?
Or is that even a state in MaGavic,s view?

Craig claims he signed his guilty plea under stress and that because of stress his signing of multiple forms was not knowingly or understandingly made.
Seems to me he created a self professed buffer zone between he himself and his very own signature.
Well than, twinky twinke doodel do.
Would seem more like the effects of a pannic attack-rather prolonged.

Did you ever wonder what MaGavic was thinking when he neglected to call to attention the fact that he had a bit of a criminal record- driving while intoxacated.Indeed now doesn,t the public forgive and isn,t that a politically known fact? Wasn,t it nonsensical on MaGavics part to just leave that out?

There you can see where Craig is going with his point of view in that he just convinced himself that it would just go away -you know be washed under-, because he sees himself as being way more important-self righteous than the rest- or completely above the plane. You know, above the plane of golden rule.

Magavic most likely thought along the same lines, after all here is a guy that shook hands and was saluted by Generals of the Army back there in in his glory days as a lobbyist.Far too important of a man to be trifled with reguarding a mear petty driving while intoxacated traffic impairment.
Ok, so now you know how Magavic was thinking.

The thing of it is, and here is where it is odd, is that even though they know they are caught ,they just don,t believe it. Odd as it is.

All of this business of ticket fixing that goes on and Humpty Dumpty just couldn,t get it fixed.

Or Humpty and Dumpty just didn,t think they had to bother to deal with it because Humpty and dumpty are just too important to get down with the problem and deal with it.

I mean after all isn,t it routine to apply political fix,s where it is what ever it takes -what ever floats your boat?

Apparently not where it is about Humpty and Dumpty ,isn,t that right? Or maybe all those Humpty Dumptys need to get it right.


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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:52 PM
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6. Craig files with the court to withdraw guilty plea
In doing so Craig also will lose his bargining chip, which means that all former charges apply.
All the charges that were droppen in exchange for his having plead guilty.

Pastacieo Von Bon Bon ESQ. who make his money by interior designer closet planing who is consultant of the Stars in Hoylywood California and holds the trademark of the Cailfornia Closet King has been commissioned to Retro fit Craigs closet . Rumor has it.

It seems word travels that if ever there was a need for a for a fantastic luster in the form of a illusion of grandeur that being a California closet of unique design ,It is Craigs bedroom in Idaho.

It seems Mr. Von Bon Bon ESQ. is working on a extension disign feature ,what he calls the travelers closet package. Apparently it,s a California closet that travels with you.
And ah, you can set up closet wherever you are!
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 05:07 PM
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7. Craigs stall attracts tourist,s
Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 05:09 PM by Wash. state Desk Jet
It seems Craigs stall at the airport men,s room is becomming a popular tourist attraction.Just the other day a tourist changing planes was seen having his picture taken in front of the very stall Craig did his infamous toe tapping routien.

Thats right every picture tells a storey and tourists love to talk about where they have been.That particular picture will fly no doubt!

Yes indeed it was right there in that very stall!

It also seems Craig has abandonded his crusade to hold his position in the senate. He was however on the floor himself last week.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:11 PM
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8. My father flew through Mpls couple wks ago, said he had to hunt for
an unoccupied stall, had to go to a couple mens rooms to find one that wasn't busy. Didn't know if he found "the" stall, but that the mens rooms were more crowded than usual.
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 11:41 AM
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9. Isn,t Craig Something!
Edited on Sat Oct-06-07 11:53 AM by Wash. state Desk Jet
Craig lost his tail in his quest to reverse his plea .
His lawers were unable to flip flop the fact of the matter.
Craig believes in the long run he will come out of this one clean.
And so ,as did James West ,Craig will think he can hold on to his seat until the bitter end of his term.
And that,s just what he thinks.
As did James West.

But James West did not believe that there were and are things happening on the outside of political control, powerful things that no political or legal strategy could or can counter.

James West beat the Courts, but he could not beat the people.
And so James West was forced to beat it out of politics.

Beat it, beat it! Get it! Beat it,beat it ,beat it beat it. If the glove fits, you must aquit, beat it, beat it.read my lips ,no new taxes, Beat it, mikee jackson ,beat it, George,e beat it, beat it.
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 01:36 PM
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10. Craig to be indoctrinated into the Idaho Hall Of Fame ( ! )
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 01:39 PM by Wash. state Desk Jet
It say,s in the paper that Craig was selected prior to his bathroom stall toe tapping fiasco in Minn.

The word is, that the curator of the Idaho Hall Of Fame has commissioned a world renowned wax sculptor from Europe to due Craig in life size upon entry into The Stall. The stall is part of the pice.

The Artist will agree to due it, only if the title of the work of art is THE STALL !

At current Craig is stalling his resignation as a U.S. Senator.

The selection committee of the Idaho Hall Of Fame claim, that Craigs theoretical performance in the airport public bathroom in Minn. had absolutely nothing to do with their standing decision to enter Craig into it,s now infamous Idaho Hall of Fame !
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 07:54 PM
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11. Seattle Times /P.I. reader realizes craigs honesty!
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 08:16 PM by Wash. state Desk Jet
Letters to the Editor!

Here now, is a letter to the editor- Bi Right Boss! , that shows something of the uncanny abilitys tippical of Washingtonians ,where it is about reading down into the flip side, which allows one to see the under handed areas clearly. Such as it is in truth.

Senator Larry Craig

Senator is honest about why he ran for office.

Americas got to love Larry Craig,s message , To quote-, I will continue my effort to clear my name in the Senate Ethics Committee !, something that is not possible if I am not serving in the senate.! End quote!

Craig in all his self righteousness ,has finally said what most Americans already know :,service in the Senate and House and most certainly the White House, has more to do with self service than it does service to the nation.

Deskjet addition-, And as George Bush already said, if you don,t like the price at the pumps, just use what you need and leave the rest behind!

continue-

You might be a crooked, self serving, cheating lier ,but at least your being honest about it! Maybe a few other elected officals,who will of course remain anonymous, will pony up and confess to their reasons for seeking political office.

Letter To The Editor Seattle P.I. /Times
by Tony A. Seattle .

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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 01:03 PM
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12. Craig Takes The Walk Down ! The Hall of Fame
Edited on Sun Oct-14-07 01:08 PM by Wash. state Desk Jet
How spooky it may have seemed yesterday as Craig made his way down the hall at Idaho,s Hall of Fame.
This was Larry,s first ceremonial appearance back in his home stall since his arrest at the airport bathroom sex sting.

The fifty dollar a head crowd applauded vigorously as Larry Craig climbed the steps ,and ah, one and ah, two and ah three and ah, four, straight up and on to the podium as he addressed to mouth pice with his very own mouth .

Larry appeared rather somber as he stood befor the crowd with his head tilted downword in a 35 degree angle. Voices cried out of the crowd ,do it, do it, do it, Do it Larry!
And so Craig lifted his head straight up looking outword to the whild blue younder as he commenced with his exceptance speech into the Idaho Hall Of Fame!

It is a pleasure to know that a little thing like that bathroom scandle does not stand between us Idahoians and all others way far away out there somewhere.

And let me just say, my E. Mails have been comming in two to one in favor of my staying in the Senate. And just as hard as it gets ,I,am staying put.
Larry raised both arms straight up over his head and gave the crowd from both hands the V. for victory!

The crowd stood standing and gave roaring applause as Larry Craig stood befor them standing fully erect, thus becomming Idaho,s statue of liberity .

Larry signaled the crowd to hold down the levity, and than placed both hands on the sides of podium grasping at it the top, And let me make this perfectly clear, the crowd became silent, and Larry went on to say, Toe tapping is nothing more than freedom of expression!
Be it in a bathroom stall or right here center stage!

The crowd suddenly came to rise of the ocasion all standing straight up giving Larry very much applause.

We are known in this state for being real troopers ,Craig went on to say, and I stand here today to tell you my fellow Idahoians and all other,s everywhere in this nation, Read my lips, Hell No, I won,t go!

Larry summed his speech by saying to the crowd, Thankyou one and all!
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:57 PM
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13. Civil Liberty Lawers
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 09:01 PM by Wash. state Desk Jet
At the end of the Dinnard Rossi fandango and James West former mayor of Spokane was being ousted, there was this thing happening around Halloween 05 . The thing was public outrage over sex offenders not being tracked at all or much. And the other thing was a housing issue. There are just not very many places or neighboorhoods far enough away from their temptation.

Ordinances became the hot issue in one city in particular. Industrial locations were to be designated a ok zone for sex offenders to live . Thereby keeping them out of neighborhoods where there are schools, child care centers and children.

I recall a civil liberty,s lawer speaking threw the telivision news media , the civil liberties lawer was defending sex offenders rights to live amoung the people.

And when asked ,how than do you keep the children safe, the civil liberties lawer answered that question ,in law of course, she said, You keep them safe.

Meaning it is up to the individual parent or parents to keep them safe, you do it.

And now it,s Larry Craig.
Civil liberty,s lawers.

If than there is no ethical or unethical, no right or wrong , no fair or unfair, just win or loose ,than you keep them safe-you the individual, just might make legal sense.

But does it?

On the very same side of that coin ,is the right to own and bear arms.
And protecting your family from what that is , is the very reason for the long standing laws reguarding guns.

Don,t we just want to quell that, because guns and crime go hand and hand !

And on top of that there is no cure for the sexual psychopath /child molester.

You keep them safe, civil liberties lawers.

To do that we need to change or amend some laws!

Or create special laws that address the problem of the incureable sexual psychopath /child molester ,or any rapist predator.

But the civil liberty,s lawers are telling us that would infringe upon the sex offenders freedoms. Or that sex offenders are entitled to the same freedoms as everyone else. Isn,t that odd?
Shouldn,t we regulate where sex offenders can and cannot live ,keeping it fair for all?

Because it is not at all fair or just to place the children at risk because society just isn,t quite sure how to go about dealing with the whole of issue.

Hope just isn,t good enough, and science isn,t any closer to finding a cure for that ,is it?

But the law, the law is complicated.

Maybe it should be about drawing lines.
And consequences of crossing those lines.
Isn,t that what the Senate is telling Craig ?

Spokane got right, a code of conduct.
Shouldn,t there be consequences?

Because there really is a right and a wrong.
Isn,t that right?



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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:06 PM
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14. Larry (The Stall) Craig recanted his plea and cops to a different tune
Larry *The stalls lawers litigate. The meaning of disorderly conduct as it seems is unclear to the eyes of beholders.Larry The stalls lawers maintain that in order for there to be a standing charge of disorderly conduct there must be at least three of company . Even Larry the stall has to admitt that threes a crowd and stalls hold no room for that sort of thing.He also says he is not gay. So what Larry,s lawers are saying is that for a charge of disoderly conduct to stick to his stall ,there will have had to have been threes company, therefore if the glove don,t fit, you must acquitt.

Talk about sour lemons eh!
Lissen though I was dreaming just the other night and I saw this commerical one that hasen,t been around in while. O.J. Simson was hanging from a wire by the seat of his pants ,you know the one right, let Hertz put you in the drivers seat,the thing of it is it dropped off Simson and picked up Larry the Stall in the drivers seat and it took Craig all the way for a touch down in the air port stall of his choice.

So the thing of it is ,what about the cop who,s intire belief system was shattered hua, what about that, is he a somebody ?
Those lawers.
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