Yuck, they had Canada's Ralph Nader on Ed Shultz

[Clintonista2]

claiming his party invented Canadian healthcare. :eyes:

[CHIMO]

1. What The Hell

Are you talking about?

Please try and share your insight with others.

[Clintonista2]

2. Jack Layton went on MSNBC

to discuss healthcare reform in the US. He spent half the time talking about how the NDP supposedly invented Canadian medicare and how great the NDP is before Ed had to shut him up. I guess Pearson being the one to push through medicare was all just an illusion?

[Spazito]

3. I'm no fan of Laytons but the CCF party in Saskatchewan was the

forerunner of the NDP party and it was the CCF under the leadership of Tommy Douglas that DID first institute what we know as universal healthcare and it was only in Saskatchewan. In that context, Jack Layton was not misleading, imo.

[CHIMO]

6. Well

Not having seen the show I have no comment on it.

But your assertion that Pearson was the one that invented our health care system is out of whack. He was there when it came in. But without Saskatchewan having the plan it never would have appeared.

I remember at the time that the doctors were going to go on strike. It was socialism. Well that didn't last long.

Your handle doesn't let us know your location so it is a bit hard to reply about Ralph vs Jack.

[Clintonista2]

7. Location: Canada. Broadbents old riding

THAT was a New Democrat. I'll be popping the champagne when Jack Nader is out.And I never said that Pearson "invented" our health care system. He was the one who pushed it through parliament and ensured that it passed though.

[Dutch]

4. Damn truth-telling asshole. You'd never get that from a Liberal.

[Clintonista2]

5. Was Pearson a New Democrat?

Didn't think so.

[CanSocDem]

9. New Democrats and Nader...

...are the only people in North America fighting the complete takeover of our lives by the corporations. Whose side are YOU on....????

.

[IntravenousDemilo]

10. Pearson had a minority government. The NDP had the hammer.

Given how the Liberal party usually operates, had Tommy (see my avatar) not held the balance of power and held the Pearson government's feet to the fire, it would never have gone through. When Liberals have majority governments, they become a second Conservative party.

[iverglas]

13. you're behaving a little erratically

You roll your eyes at Layton saying the NDP invented medicare.

You say: "And I never said that Pearson 'invented' our health care system."

And now you say: "Was Pearson a New Democrat? I didn't think so."


Here's a novel thought.

Why don't you say something?

[BolivarianHero]

14. I'm sorry...

Clintonista is currently not available. Please forward all correspondence to John Ensign, Joe Lieberman, Mark Sanford, or Chip Pickering.

Thank you.

[Clintonista2]

16. Never said Pearson invented it

He was responsible for getting it through parliament, a fact Layton seems to be ignorant of.

[snagglepuss]

15. You should get facts straight before revealing your glaring lack of knowledge.

Pearson brought in Medicare Canada during a minority government.
That government remained viable due NDP support led by Tommy Douglas. The price of that support was the introduction of nation-wide Medicare, previously introduced into Saskatchewan by Mr. Douglas when he was Premier of that province.


The History of Medicare
1947 - The Saskatchewan Government, led by leader Tommy Douglas, introduces the first provincial hospital insurance program In Canada.

1957 - Paul Martin Sr. introduces a national hospital insurance program. Doctors, insurance companies and big business fight against it.

1960 - The Canadian Medical Association opposes all publicly funded health care.

1962 - Saskatchewan’s NDP government introduces the first public health care program. Doctors walk out but the strike collapses after 3 weeks.

1965 - A Royal Commission appointed by Diefenbaker government and headed by Justice Emmett Hall calls for a universal and comprehensive national health insurance program.

1966 - Pearson minority government creates a national Medicare program with Ottawa paying 50% of provincial health costs. Prior to this point, doctors charged whatever they wanted and bankruptcy to pay for health care was common. Now citizens would receive portable, comprehensive and universal access to necessary physician and hospital services, regardless of ability to pay.

[HeresyLives]

8. We borrowed healthcare from the UK.

Neither Douglas nor Pearson invented it.

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[BolivarianHero]

12. Jack Layton > You, Hillary, and your C-Street Comrades...

I'm sick of this shit from Liberals and from Americans ignorant of parliamentary politics.