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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:56 PM
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Ottawa’s deficit on track to hit $56B
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:00 PM
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1. Yep, well on the way to a Mulroney-sized fiscal disaster...
the history of Con fiscal mismanagement is being continued.
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:12 PM
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2. Why do they have a reputation for good fiscal
management when they've been a financial disaster everytime they've been in power? :shrug:
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:33 PM
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3. Because they are better at messaging...
the electorate, by and large, doesn't spend the time needed to understand the difference between the message and the truth, they don't have the time because they are focused on THEIR real life issues, paying the rent/mortgage, being able to afford groceries, getting the 'kids' to where they need to get (if they have children), etc.

The NDP's only message in recent years is echoing the CRAP about how scary the Liberals are as opposed to focusing on the party that is doing the damage to the country so the electorate is hearing the same messaging from two different parties, one supposedly more "left" than the Liberals which certainly doesn't help in getting the facts out regarding the disaster EVERY CON government has left Canada in when they are eventually turfed out.

The Liberals are very poor at messaging, imo. They could be just as efficient in messaging as the CONS while actually telling the truth but, for some reason, they don't do so.
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:50 PM
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4. They've never needed to before.
We never used to have year-round campaigning, and constant attacks. You can't 'discuss' anything in Parliament anymore, it's all an election fight.

As Bob Rae said, with the Cons everything is a head shot.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:07 PM
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5. The tone and tenor certainly has been seriously degraded by the current right...
by the use of the kind of attack ads/vitriol that are now the only kind of ads the cons do. Previous to this, there seemed to be an unspoken agreement among the parties which limited the kinds of attacks and the level of vitriol. The Libs seems to still follow that 'unspoken agreement' while the cons have tossed it out the window.

Not having to have done it before doesn't excuse their seeming inability to do it now, imo, but I am hopeful the recent shake-up in Ignatieff's office will address this.

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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:20 PM
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6. 'Gentlemen's agreements' only work
if there are gentlemen there to deal with, and that's certainly not Harper.

I know the Libs will have to get 'down and dirty' to fight back, and that's depressing. Because the country is drifting, and needs leadership...and 'streetfights' are no way to run a nation in the 21st century.

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:31 PM
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7. Bingo, they only work as long as those who agree maintain their ethics...
that certainly is no longer the case as clearly demonstrated by the harper cabal.
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:01 AM
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8. But teh socialest wil deestroy teh econoooniy...
Tommy Douglas had no problem slaying a deficit while creating medicare and tons of social programs.
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:22 AM
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9. Different era, different area.
He couldn't do the same thing today as PM.
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