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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 03:24 PM
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What do you think of the PC party aims?
www.pcparty.org

AIMS

2.1 As Progressive Conservatives, we believe in a balance between fiscal accountability, progressive social policy and individual rights and responsibilities.

2.2 The Progressive Conservative Party of Canada exists to:

2.2.1 Build a national coalition of people who share these beliefs and who reflect the regional, cultural and socio-economic diversity of Canada;

2.2.2 Develop this coalition, embracing our differences and respecting our traditions, yet honouring a concept of Canada as the greater sum of strong parts; and

2.2.3 Provide an organizational framework within which Members of the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada can effect change, gather public support for its policies and influence government policy through the nomination of Progressive Conservative candidates in every constituency and the election of Progressive Conservative Members of Parliament, for the betterment of Canada.

2.3 The Party will operate in a manner accountable and responsive to its Members.

3. PRINCIPLES

3.1 The principles of the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada are:

3.1.1 A belief in loyalty to a sovereign and united Canada governed in accordance with the Constitution of Canada, the supremacy of democratic parliamentary institutions and the rule of law;

3.1.2 A belief in the equality of all Canadians;

3.1.3 A belief in the freedoms of the individual, including freedom of speech, worship and assembly;

3.1.4 A belief in our constitutional monarchy, the institutions of Parliament and the democratic process;

3.1.5 A belief in the federal system of government as the best expression of the diversity of our country, and in the desirability of strong provincial and territorial governments;

3.1.6 A belief that the best guarantors of the prosperity and well-being of the people of Canada are:

3.1.6.1 the freedom of individual Canadians to pursue their enlightened and legitimate self-interest within a competitive economy;

3.1.6.2 the freedom of individual Canadians to enjoy the fruits of their labour to the greatest possible extent; and

3.1.6.3 the right to own property.

3.1.7 A belief that a responsible government must be fiscally prudent and should be limited to those responsibilities which cannot be discharged reasonably by the individual or others;

3.1.8 A belief that it is the responsibility of individuals to provide for themselves, their families and their dependents, while recognizing that government must respond to those who require assistance and compassion;

3.1.9 A belief that the purpose of Canada as a nation state and its government, guided by reflective and prudent leadership, is to create a climate wherein individual initiative is rewarded, excellence is pursued, security and privacy of the individual is provided and prosperity is from a free competitive market economy;

3.1.10 A belief that the quality of the environment is a vital part of our heritage to be protected by each generation for the next;

3.1.11 A belief that Canada should accept its obligations among the nations of the world; and

3.1.12 A belief that good and responsible government is attentive to the people it represents and has representatives who at all times conduct themselves in an ethical manner and display integrity, honesty and concern for the best interest of all.

3.2 The leadership of the Party is accountable to its Members for ensuring that policies espoused by the Party are guided by these principles.

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Even if you are true-blooded liberals, do you find this party a respectable alternative to the Liberals party of Canada?
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 03:27 PM
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1. I'm not a Liberal.
My alternative to the Liberal Party is the NDP. The old PCs can scurry off to wherever they want to - their new party will suffer the same fate as the Cosmopolitan Party, the National Party and all the other failed new parties of the last 20 years. Why bother?
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 04:54 PM
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2. Sounds good... too bad they're lying through their teeth. nt
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 04:56 PM
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3. Progressive Conservatives have caused their own extinction
by aligning themselves to the Alliance. They'll either continue to be persecuted by the neo-cons in the CPC or they might find places in the right-wing of the Liberal Party.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:18 PM
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4. Sounds Pretty Much
Like it could come from the present Conservative party of Canada.
No mention of quite a few things. Such as Charter of Rights, NORAD, NATO, sovereignty over trade...etc.
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 06:36 PM
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5. Whatever this is
it is not a list of aims. It appears to be pap for public consumption, full of platitudes, signifying nothing.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:04 PM
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6. Empty rhetoric coined solely to hoodwink the public
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 10:10 PM by Spazito
Deleted total content because I assumed the post was about the faux Conservative party and it is not. I clicked on the site after typing when I realized PC is not the New Conservative party.

The real Conservatives were taken for a ride by the Alliance party and I hope they realize that very soon and leave to form a real Conservative Party ala Joe Clark.

As to the goals you posted, they are too generic and have no real meaning without firm commitments that are more specific.
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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:37 AM
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7. I'd have to agree about the goals being vague
they leave an impression that they are "socially liberal" but "economically fiscal". They talk about believing that the individual takes care of self and family first...but also allow room for support of individuals that cannot do so. The key would be where they draw the line here? I would be very interested to seeing the PC leaders' criteria.
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