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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:27 PM
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important urgent request
I am sitting two feet away from a person who has a lot of influence with the Kerry campaign. This person has NEVER SEEN a report of the Ohio irregularities. Damn!!

Can someone quickly point me to the most comprehensive and damning summary so I can print it out and hand it to him?

Oh...the phrase "move on" was said to me.
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:29 PM
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1. If you are serious...put this in general discussion as well.
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:31 PM
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2. here are documented cases of fraud in various states.
compiled by berniew1

There was widespread and systematic voter suppression of minority voters, dirty tricks, vote machine fraud, and other vote manipulation in Ohio, New Mexico, and Florida- that was of magnitude enough to call in question who won those states.

http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html
http://www.flcv.com/EIRSFla.html
http://northnet.org/minstrel/alpage.htm
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19
http://www.helpamericarecount.org/NewMexicoData/NewMexi...
http://www.flcv.com/bernalil.html
etc.

and also similar patterns in other states where the suppression and fraud did not change the election results including vote machine fraud in Calif., Pennsylvania, Washington, Texas, etc.
http://www.flcv.com/orangets.html
http://www.flcv.com/snohomis.html
http://www.flcv.com/mercerco.html
http://www.flcv.com/philadel.html
http://www.flcv.com/texas.html
http://www.votersunite.org
etc.

(the voter suppression of minorities in Mercer County is the worst I've ever seen-followup needed)

The unethical and illegal actions were so systematic and widespread that this cannot be allowed to continue uninvestigated and unpunished. There was a huge amount of obvious malfeasance and dirty tricks that should be investigated and dealt with
http://www.flcv.com/dirtytrf.html
http://www.flcv.com/EIRSFla2.html
http://northnet.org/minstrel/alpage.htm
http://www.votersunite.org
http://www.freepress.org departments
http://www.flcv.com/cuyahovs.html

http://www.flcv.com/cuyahopb.html

http://www.flcv.com/cuyahoga.html

(the numbers directly affected was huge, many hundread of thousands, people need to followup on getting affidavits signed by thousands of affected and filing with authorities, Congress, etc

ethics complaints, complaints to proper authorities and prosecutors, etc. There was huge amounts of illegal acts and malfeasance that are known and obvious from the thousands of EIRS reports above. These widespread illegal acts and malfeasance should not be allowed to stand.

>http://www.flcv.com/southcar.html

>http://www.flcv.com/fairfax.html

>http://www.flcv.com/njersey.html tomorrow morning

http://www.flcv.com/NewYork.html

http://www.flcv.com/claytong.html
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:32 PM
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3. thanks.......
..that will be great for my reference, but what I need is the text on paper, in summary form. Gotta spoonfeed this guy.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:33 PM
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4. Preserving Democracy:What Went Wrong in Ohio Status Report of the House Ju
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 06:36 PM by helderheid
http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/010605Y.shtml

Per DU rules, only 4 paragraphs (but a great summary is there, and a link to the 100 page report)


"First, in the run up to election day, the following actions by Mr. Blackwell, the Republican Party and election officials disenfranchised hundreds of thousands of Ohio citizens, predominantly minority and Democratic voters:

The misallocation of voting machines led to unprecedented long lines that disenfranchised scores, if not hundreds of thousands, of predominantly minority and Democratic voters. This was illustrated by the fact that the Washington Post reported that in Franklin County, "27 of the 30 wards with the most machines per registered voter showed majorities for Bush. At the other end of the spectrum, six of the seven wards with the fewest machines delivered large margins for Kerry." (See Powell and Slevin, supra). Among other things, the conscious failure to provide sufficient voting machinery violates the Ohio Revised Code which requires the Boards of Elections to "provide adequate facilities at each polling place for conducting the election."

Mr. Blackwell's decision to restrict provisional ballots resulted in the disenfranchisement of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of voters, again predominantly minority and Democratic voters. Mr. Blackwell's decision departed from past Ohio law on provisional ballots, and there is no evidence that a broader construction would have led to any significant disruption at the polling places, and did not do so in other states.

Mr. Blackwell's widely reviled decision to reject voter registration applications based on paper weight may have resulted in thousands of new voters not being registered in time for the 2004 election.
The Ohio Republican Party's decision to engage in preelection "caging" tactics, selectively targeting 35,000 predominantly minority voters for intimidation had a negative impact on voter turnout. The Third Circuit found these activities to be illegal and in direct violation of consent decrees barring the Republican Party from targeting minority voters for poll challenges. "

<snip>
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:41 PM
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7. thanks...I think that'll do
This is probably the best document to provide.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:37 PM
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5. This one is great, too!
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:39 PM
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6. That is the link I thought of immediately
and couldn't find it. Thanks for posting it.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:42 PM
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9. yes!
That one has it all!
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:41 PM
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8. other links
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 06:42 PM by Goldeneye
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:42 PM
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10. also good
www.exitpollz.org
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:43 PM
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11. nm
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 06:43 PM by Goldeneye
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:48 PM
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12. sounds like a job for TIA
TruthIsAll should have the info, but it may not be in short form.

wishing TIA would check in here.
dp
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:53 PM
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13. Conyer's Report 102 pages just on Oh...
Is here.

Is this guy for real? This report was delivered to every senator's office. They also have a page of links to documents regarding election stuff.

-Hoot
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:55 PM
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14. can't move on if you just end up at the same rigged machine. n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:57 PM
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15. let us know
how it goes with this person!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:01 PM
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16. What about the Conyer's report?
Brad Blog has a whole lot of info...hope it helps!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:02 PM
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17. that's been posted several times here
It certainly is the most "credible" of evidence to show the guy!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:38 PM
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20. oops...sorry! just a bit ahead of myself...
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:41 PM
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21. don't be sorry!
You were right on! :)
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 12:22 AM
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23. Why, thanks!
:hi:
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:02 PM
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18. Great Election Fraud Summary
Here's another one... great summary

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/5/84732/37166


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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:32 PM
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19. Votersunite.org -- "Myth Breakers"
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:42 PM
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22. YES!
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 11:43 PM by helderheid
YES YES

and

YES

And I will personally be faxing the table of contents to every county clerk in my state on Monday. Utah is covered. Will you do the same?
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 01:31 AM
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24. maybe start by showing him Hitchen's article in March's Vanity Fair
Since he seems skeptical, show him that first since the writer is not a Kerry supporter and the article is brief and highlights many of the major problems.
It should pique his interest enough to read through the more comprehensive Myth Breakers and Conyer's Report.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:06 PM
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25. Please let us know how your meeting with the person that has
Edited on Sun Feb-13-05 03:13 PM by merh
influence with the Kerry campaign went. Also, be sure to buy them a copy of the March issue of Vanity Fair. DailyKOS has an anaylsis of the article and it appears to be pretty powerful. See the thread on DU that has the link!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x325728

Thank you! ;-)
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:13 PM
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26. kick
to find out what happened.

:kick:
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Lostnote03 Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:16 AM
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27. Geesshhhh......A classic case of the Peter Principle!!!!....Thanks for...
demonstrating initiative Grasswire.....hopefully the high ranking Kerry official will have enough intellectual curiosity to pursue the facts now....geeesshh, we're sooo screwed....lol , oh well...
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:18 AM
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28. the Conyers 101 paged report is the best
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