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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 03:16 AM Original message |
new report from Verified Voting - HOLT bill is best ! |
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tommcintyre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 04:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. "...sure a good endorsement of Holt." Yes it is. n/t |
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keepthemhonest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 09:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. tom have you been able to make a decision |
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tommcintyre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-19-05 10:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. No, any bill MUST contain a VVPB/automatic random audit at a bare minimum |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
17. does any bill besides HOLT's do this?? |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:12 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Conyers has some language about mandatory audits. |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. this is why |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. That passage makes referrence to HAVA Section 301 |
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tommcintyre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 11:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. This is why I am reluctant to strongly back a specific bill right now |
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tommcintyre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 11:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. Is this an AUTOMATIC random audit? |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 12:32 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. It is "just you"... and all else who don't deal with this stuff daily! |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. righteous kick for Rush Holt! |
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Helga Scow Stern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-19-05 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
4. Did you see this? |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-20-05 07:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. From that discussion... |
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Helga Scow Stern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-20-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. That video, Invisible Ballots, makes this point. |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
18. that article was written before Holt's bill came out |
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sacxtra (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-19-05 03:19 AM Response to Original message |
5. HOLT IS THE PROBLEM |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
21. eyes on the prize, dude |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:17 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. It's not my understanding that Holt bans DRE's. |
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New Earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-19-05 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
7. ahhhhhhh |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. i'm with you |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-19-05 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
8. Clinton's may be equally good or better. It also deals with undisclosed |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-20-05 06:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I'd expect it to deal with software. But, what happens from there? |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-20-05 08:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Exactly. I think the only way we will get anywhere with any of this is a |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. That's already happening in a way. |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. You can have one of those machines in each precinct. Or, I was at |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. The vote from home option is fine for some people. |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. yeah, I can't wait. when are they releasing it? |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 09:04 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Show me where the Holt Bill "bans DREs"...?!? |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. is it semantics? |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. We do have terminology issues, don't we? |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 09:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. A DRE CAN have a paper printout... |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 12:25 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. This is an awkward complicated systems requiring care with definitions |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 02:59 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. we should get it straight |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. I'm pretty sure "Holt's Paper" is "just the record for the 2% audit" |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 02:49 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. the Verified Voting description is ambiguous, I'm still confused |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-20-05 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
11. "....gold standard for e-voting" |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-20-05 06:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. It's OK, BeFree. |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:58 AM Response to Reply #11 |
22. one issue per bill |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 11:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
39. The only VVPB |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-20-05 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
13. How much |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
26. Let;s plug IDEAS not names of bills |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I AGREE, here are some KEY IDEAS we need |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. good suggestion |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Jaws, you really "Grasp It". Don't you? |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 10:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. Do you have any opinion landshark, |
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trudyco (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
27. Do any of these bills have penalties in them? |
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LeahD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
41. Where's Andy?? |
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eaglenetsupport (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 03:00 AM Response to Original message |
47. I think we should get serious or just quit. |
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Helga Scow Stern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 03:35 AM Response to Original message |
48. NYT says new Dem bill is the "gold standard" |
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tommcintyre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 05:31 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Sounds really good but is it trying to cover too much? |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I can't believe VV is calling this a gold standard |
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LeahD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:59 AM Response to Original message |
52. Why oh why.... |
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sacxtra (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
53. Kiss your right to vote goodbye. Go ahead PASS IT, be dumb. |
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NationalEnquirer (571 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
54. Thanks for this info. |
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