KOEB - The Snark is Back (Monday)

[Clark2008]

:loveya:

Cue Beethoven's Ninth!!

[Botany]

1. first

[Patsy Stone]

27. But remember

It's quality...

[Botany]

38. If it is quality you want then ........

..... you be looking in the wrong place.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/HS/content/htm/hs.002.00.000166.00.htm

BTW look @ 166.039

* sucks.

Big ups to W.G. for doing the deed 1000 xs

Stephanie :loveya: Miller

[WhirlyGirl]

55. Thanks, Botany! -- The Big Moment is scheduled for 8:30pm Eastern!

One more to go! WOOO-HOOO!!! :bounce:

[sparky_in_ma]

2. Hi Clark

:hi:

[Clark2008]

4. Hi Sparky!

I'm so glad to hear Keith's voice - Thursday's opinion on steroids in baseball was just a tease!

:hi:

[sparky_in_ma]

5. No more Schivo

please.:-(

[bunny planet]

3. Hola KOEB Vixens and the Bartenders who love them!!!!

He's back!!!!!! Fabulous.
:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

See you during the breaks.

[sparky_in_ma]

31. Hey bunny

Missed ya last week.:(

[bunny planet]

52. Missed you too Snarky Sparky!

[SharonRB]

6. Hi, Everyone!

:hi:

[Nothing Without Hope]

120. Hi Sharon! Please tell me - is John Conyers your own personal Rep.?

I was just thinking how extremely cool that would be.

Good to see you!

[SharonRB]

159. Hi, NWH -- just saw this post

No, my rep is Sandy Levin. I live in the surburbs -- Conyers' district is in Detroit proper. Sandy's good, too, but not as visible as Conyers. He really rocks!

[Nothing Without Hope]

168. Well, he's closer to you there than to me in Massachusetts!

Yeah, he really, really rocks! I believe that wihout him to keep hope for justice alive, there would have been far more violence and riots around this country.

He and his courageous colleagues are real heros at a time when we need heros desperately. And oh, is he perfect for the role!

[SharonRB]

174. Yeah, I'm proud to live in his state

But you have Kerry and Kennedy. No slouches! (Our Senators are Carl Levin - Sandy's brother - and Stabenow. At least we have two Dems like you do.)

[Nothing Without Hope]

183. We have Barney Frank too, a wonderfully snarky progressive

He came out as a gay some years back and, far from damaging his political career, he was respected for his honesty. Nobody's been able to suppress him since!

[SharonRB]

187. He was great last night when he spoke.

I know he's been out for a long time. So refreshing, isn't it? Honesty and openness.

[Nothing Without Hope]

199. Yes, it gives hope to so many. The neocons have tried to demonize

so many things, not just the ones explicitly on their agenda, but also honesty, hope, community support, common humanity, decency, tolerance. Just go down the most prized humanitarian virtures, and they're all against them.

But I believe the tide is starting to turn. Doesn't the bible say, "by their fruits you shall know them"? Well, it's harvest time and the fruit's all rotten.

[Clark2008]

7. Someone called Keith a Nazi?

:wow:

All because SHE didn't believe Terri Schaivo was brain damaged?
:wtf:

[sparky_in_ma]

8. Yup, this is getting out of hand. n/t

[SharonRB]

11. I'm so fed up with all of this

I stayed up to watch until after they voted last night. Who do they think they are, anyway? I can't believe so many Dems voted with the Repukes.

[RevCheesehead]

113. It was a long night, wasn't it?

I can't even begin to express my heartache over this. These kind of decisions are hard enough for families to make. Now everybody is going to be terrified about removing feeding tubes... and it's a painless and humane way to let someone go.

[SharonRB]

165. I'm with you -- I just couldn't bear to go to sleep last night

until I knew what was going to happen in the House. Well, I knew what was probably going to happen, but I wanted to see it for myself. I'm really disappointed in the 47 or so Dems who voted with the Repukes. Glad none of them were mine.

[RevCheesehead]

170. Believe it or not, Tweety said something I agree with.

He said, "perhaps this is one case where it would have been best to have them vote anonymously. Let them vote their conscience, rather than pandering to politics."

Sometimes, even Tweety gets it right.

[SharonRB]

175. True up to a point, but I really wanted to see how they all voted

I don't understand that there were only three senators on the floor when they took a voice vote. I didn't see any of that.

[bunny planet]

I wonder what they'll do next if and when this judge says Michael Schiavo

has the right to remove Terry's feeding tube. The Federal Supreme Court already said it wouldn't take the case. I believe even Scalia thinks it should be up to the judges in the state. Jeb Blivet's interventions have already been declared unconstitutional. Since when does Congress get to legislate after the courts have ruled on the laws. Are they making shit up as they go along or what? And has everyone seen the leaked Republican talking points (posted on ABCnews.com according to Randi Rhodes) that clearly state that this is just a political maneuver to get Senator Nelson (D) voted out of office in 2006. Don't know why they've bothered dragging the family through all of this, they just need to rig the voting machines again to accomplish removing Dems from their Senate seats.

And the story about the little baby in Texas whose Mama didn't have the money so the hospital pulled the plug without her permission. How does all of that add up with the 'culture of life' people? The hypocrisy is beyond the beyond FUBAR.:grr: :nuke: :smoke:

[RevCheesehead]

184. The answer to your question is "Yes."

<"Are they making shit up as they go along or what?">

[bunny planet]

190. I thought so.

Hi oh Cheezy one.

[RevCheesehead]

197. hi, bunny.

I'm glad to see you. :hug:

[SharonRB]

185. Conyers talked about the talking points when he spoke on the floor

last night. He was the only one who mentioned them. He was so great! I think once the ruling comes down, this will be the end of the road, no matter what it is. As you said, the SCOTUS won't hear the case.

[seito]

12. Them's fightin words

:hi: KOEB

[Patsy Stone]

16. Not only that..

These are the e-mails he responds to...

Did you see John Conyers? He rocked! Delay was sooooo sleazy!

[SharonRB]

34. Conyers was ab fab, Pats

What I want to know is where were all the senators? I heard there were only three on the floor when they took the voice vote.

[Patsy Stone]

59. I know

it was well after midnight when they voted. I sat through the whole thing ('cuz I'm a wonk), and I think they could have at least showed up if I had bothered to!

:) Also, props to Debbie Wasserman-Schultz!

[SharonRB]

81. Yeah, she was great, too.

I also heard her on Ed Schultz today.

I was exhausted this morning -- It's not often I stay up that late, but I really wanted to hear what the reps had to say and to see the vote. I'm a wonk, too, when I can be. I switched during commercials during Boston Legal, but watched it all from 11 until it was over.

[Patsy Stone]

92. Yep.

C-SPAN and I are very close whenever possible. Isn't it awful that it all worked out the way you thought it would in there?

And what of this Federal judge? Adjournment? Wow. Good for him.

[SharonRB]

104. I haven't heard any results yet.

He's still deliberating, as far as I know. The hearing didn't last very long. When I got home from work Abrams kept saying they could have a decision any minute, but nothing yet.

[Patsy Stone]

CNN.com

Said he adjourned it -- without a decision. Big cajones. :)

Really, since Dan Abrams came running down the steps of the SCOUTS with BvG in his hand, he lost all credibility with me. I've said it before, but he just reminds me so much of Miles in Murphy Brown. :)

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/21/schiavo/index.html

[SharonRB]

171. Took me a minutes, but I figured out what BvG was

It was so long ago now, I had a hard time. The acronyms just stump me sometimes.

According to MSNBC after Keith's show, they still haven't heard anything. I hope the judge rules the right way. If not, it's going to be such a travesty.

[RevCheesehead]

54. Keith never responded to my snarky letter.

:( Do you think he's on to me?

[Patsy Stone]

68. Perhaps next time

you should use the word "Nazi". :)

[seito]

91. And use the e-mail generator

on the Dobson site ;)

:hi: Patsy and Rev

[Patsy Stone]

106. Hey, lady!

How's it goin'? Are things any better there in the land of the Chesapeake? Damn, I miss DC!

[seito]

142. Well...

Keef is back and snarky as ever.

Blivet** and the idiots in Congress continue to press their radical agenda and regular Americans are starting to take notice.

Spring is in the air.

So, I Believe things are on the upswing :)

[Patsy Stone]

148. I believe

you're right! I was watching a C-SPAN call in show and a Repug woman called in and said she was so disgusted with the antics in Congress, she was leaving the party! So let's give her a big DU welcome! Salute!

:)

[seito]

173. Just let 'em self destruct

[bunny planet]

200. Can you say overreaching.

Better yet, do you have an overreaching smilie?

[RevCheesehead]

123. Honestly, seito...

I have enough spam as it is. I don't need that crap clogging up my dial-up!

[bunny planet]

195. Delay is sleaze personified. Let's hope soon he'll be sleaze

incarcerated. I'd like to see the bug-killer and the cat-killer behind bars. A girl can dream can't she?

[Kip Humphrey]

202. The REAL nazis

[Patsy Stone]

9. It's beyond back

It's f'n ATOMIC!

Hi, Clark! :loveya::loveya:

[Clark2008]

10. Way to go! Keith points out that Bush raced back to the WH

for the FIRST time in his presidency.

Hope he mentions that Bush signed a completely opposite law in Texas in 1999.

[SharonRB]

13. LOL -- I loved that comment

[SharonRB]

19. Yup -- he did it!

[sparky_in_ma]

47. This case made me get

my living will together. Gave my lawyer friend medical proxy so it takes the pressure off my family.

[SharonRB]

57. As soon as we can think of a lawyer, we're going to do ours, too.

[Nothing Without Hope]

162. Do you mean Keith mentioned that Texas law the blivet** signed in 1999?

It was published in the WaPo and the text of that law is all over the internet now.

So, did Keith really mention it? I've been dying to know and I don't have cable to see for myself.

[sparky_in_ma]

169. Yes he did!

He smacked the republicans on all of it. Hi Hope:hi:

[Nothing Without Hope]

180. Hello Sparky!! And thanks for this very good news!

It wasn't in his newsletter, but I was hoping he would say it. With him and the WaPo leading the way in the major media, maybe this important story will finally get out.

Good to see you!
:toast:

[Nothing Without Hope]

83. Hi Clark2008! Yes, that's what I'm hoping for too - that opposite law

the heartless hypocrites! The GOP are using this family's great tragedy for their own political ends; the degree of cynicism and hypocrisy is beyond imagination.

[CC]

14. Hello all

I wanted to feast my starving eyes on the man......and what female in her right mind would call him a nazi. Idiot woman drank too much kool aid.

for KO :loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:
:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:

[Greylyn58]

15. Howdy all

Yeah...Mr. Snarky is back with us!!!

And just from his opening he sounds in fine form and looking good too!!

Wow! Someone called KO a Nazi?? Geez!!! If anyone is a Nazi it's Bush!!

:hi: fellow KOEBers


:bounce: :bounce: :toast: :party: :toast: :bounce: :bounce: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[Clark2008]

17. Bandwagoning! Good term.

Ha! Calling 'em out for not even knowing how to pronounce her name!

[CC]

22. When he didn't agree with her email

she sent one back calling him a nazi.

[Clark2008]

18. Hell YEAH!!! He's talking about!

:bounce:

Got to love that Keith!!!

The Texas Case!!!

:yourock: Keith!

[Greylyn58]

20. GO KEITH GO!!!!

Tell it like it is!!!!

:grr:

[RevCheesehead]

Hi, everybody!

:hi:

[SharonRB]

23. Hi, Rev

I see you weathered the snowstorm (pun intended).

[RevCheesehead]

30. ba-dum-dump!

(rimshot)

And a fine pun it was, Sharon! :thumbsup:

So weird, much of that snow is melting quickly. I have learned that if I want it to disappear faster, I should pile it around the roots of the birch trees in the front yard. They're thirsty.

[Patsy Stone]

26. Hey, Rev!

Let's all :bounce:

He's back and snarkier than ever! In fact, he used snarky in his latest blog. :bounce:

[SharonRB]

28. Hey, Pats!

I read the blog this afternoon. It really had me cracking up.

[RevCheesehead]

39. Nah - I'm saving my bouncies for Whirly Girl's party.,

Otherwise, it gets to dizzy around here. :)

[Clark2008]

53. Musta been readin' our thread about "snark" in the clubhouse.

;)

[SaveAmerica]

109. I've been unable to read for a bit, has the new group been set up?

Do I need an invite to join?

[sparky_in_ma]

118. Hi SaveAmerica

Nope....no invite needed. It's right in the groups forum, Countdown/Keith Olbermann

[SaveAmerica]

141. thank you! I'll go check it out

:hi:

[Catchawave]

134. Hiya Save....the group is up and running now.....

You're very welcome anytime...bring your snark :)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=315

[SaveAmerica]

154. Hey, thanks for the linky, I've already added a bit o' snark : ) nt

[bunny planet]

205. HE DID.

oh he loves and adores us.

[sparky_in_ma]

40. Nice to see you're back

from your undercover assignment.

[RevCheesehead]

43. :)

Not. sayin' nuffin. :)

[Patsy Stone]

21. And baby Sun!

Couldja LOVE KO anymore??? NO! :loveya:

[Clark2008]

24. And now has Wayne Slater on.

Oh, I'm so in love with Keith!! :loveya:

The ONLY corporate journalist out there!!

[sparky_in_ma]

25. He's pounding them!!

:loveya: (notice KO wears a lot more striped ties lately?)

[Patsy Stone]

32. That fact

is apparent and definitely a "shout out". :)

Hey, sparky!

[seito]

37. Hey sparky

He is in fine form tonight :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[sparky_in_ma]

44. Hi seito

He's learned moves from you.:D

[RevCheesehead]

46. a floaty heart - - from YOU?

will wonders never cease.

[sparky_in_ma]

49. No one else has taken the fight to them

like he has. He earned that floaty.:thumbsup:

[Nothing Without Hope]

213. With all the hate mail he must be receiving, I'm betting he finds our

cheery and outspoken support a comfort. And oh, does he ever deserve it! You guys have made my day with the news that he has indeed talked about the stories that make the reeking GOP hypocrisy in the Schiavo case so obvious, even their own rank-and-file can't help but start noticing the stench.

Go Keith go!!!

It is indeed sweet that he is wearing more striped ties. Since I can't see him (no cable), I woldn't know but for your comment. Thanks!
:hi:

[Sydnie]

29. No I couldn't!

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[CC]

33. my email that I sent to Tweety and cc'd

to Keith last night when I was so mad listening to the whole thing

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
Where were all these politicians when baby Sun’s mother begged them to save his life? When is the media going to point out the hypocrisy of the state killing a baby using a law President Bush signed while fighting against a grown woman’s wishes and the sanctity of marriage to keep her alive against their wishes? Passing an unconstitutional bill that President Bush will sign that contradicts his Texas state bill. I guess a 5 month old baby is not worth as much as an adult woman that had an eating disorder that put her in this situation. C

I doubt I was the only one to email but feeling like at least he reads or a staffer does.

[sparky_in_ma]

35. Good one

:thumbsup:

[Catchawave]

71. Very good !

We need to send more of these. I bet every one of them are read!

[bleever]

Good one, CC.

:thumbsup:

[Catchawave]

36. Oh, oh...Mr Lunsford's mad ....I smell a lawsuit !!!!!!!!

Hi y'all :hi:

:loveya:

[Clark2008]

45. Who?

I've missed something.

[Catchawave]

56. The story's coming up....sorry I'm trying to type ahead..

Jessica Lunsford, the little girl killed by the pedophile. Dad's mad HE WASN'T TOLD...heh...that he lived across the street!?!

I just sense dollar signs now :)

[Clark2008]

69. I don't think the police have to TELL you - but the info has to be

available to the public and can be accessed online (although, Mr. Lunsford doesn't strike me as a 'net guy).
I used to do stories about once every six months about where sex offenders lived so the public would know. I was nice that way - but most newspapers don't do that. They should - it was very well received, read and appreciated. Nothing like customer service to drum up sales - even in newspaper work.

[Clark2008]

86. Aha - I see now.

Mr. Cooey - or however you spell his name - never registered and the police never tracked him down and violated his parole for NOT registering.
That makes more sense.

Oh - and they cannot be rehabilitated. I think child molesters should be beaten by the kids' parents. Sorry - that's the "mommy" in me coming out because I would kill anyone who harmed my child.

[sparky_in_ma]

95. No sorry needed

Many men would be more than happy to help.:mad:

[Catchawave]

186. Couey's got a very long rap sheet...I think 48 prior arrests!

The CJ system did fail that little girl :(

[Sydnie]

219. I have been there Clark and it is NO fun

My daughter was molested when she was 7 by my ex's girlfriends son. He was 6. (I know, but it did happen) I was ridiculed for months by him and by others in the neighborhood (they live in the same small town) because the boy was denying it. I got so tired of hearing "That's just what kids do" by those that had no real idea what had happened. After much wrangling with DSS, they finally told the mother that they would jail her if they didn't allow them access to the boy to investigate. Seems the boy was being molested by a 9 year old in his neighborhood. He did confess to what he had done along with naming the next boy too. Funny, I never heard one apology from anyone and certainly never a "thank you" from the boys mother, since my outrage lead to his disclosure. I couldn't press charges because he was 6 and the law says you can't until they are 7.

And yes, my ex still lives there and still wants the kids to "be friends". My daughter had a year of therapy while the boy got only 6 weeks of therapy. They were in a hurry to "put it behind them".

Do I think he will do it again? You bet I do. My daughter is now 12 and rather immature and I blame a great deal of that on what she has gone through with all this.

Kill him? You betcha I had those feels.

And my ex? She told him as soon as it happened and he blew it off. It wasn't until she came home and told me that anyone listened to her. I think he was more concerned with causing trouble with the girlfriend than protecting his own daughter.

But don't get me started on his shortcomings ... I could keep you here all night with that!

[sparky_in_ma]

225. Good that you pushed it

even though it must have been hard.:hug:

[Catchawave]

101. I know some states require notification, but I guess Couey

did slip through the cracks. The bastard. Hope they tighten these laws SOON.

[Sydnie]

41. "liberal elite"

I couldn't believe that commercial!

[Clark2008]

42. Talking about the REAL brain in the woman

"Liquified."

Period.

[WhirlyGirl]

48. Hi, everybody! What an exciting night!

And doesn't our man look rested and ready (tho less "tanned" than a few days ago)!!!!!

Hi, Keith! Welcome back, we missed you!!!<sighhhhhhhhh> :loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:

[sparky_in_ma]

50. Hey WG.....two to go!

[Nothing Without Hope]

76. Wow, WG, 999 posts!! I'm glad I made it in time for your 1000th!

And Hello, everybody, good to see you back from the weekend!
:toast:

[RevCheesehead]

51. Now Keith knows how to make a segue!

"From the top story of the day, to one which is laughable in comparison..."

Thank you, Keith!! :loveya:

[Clark2008]

58. Well, when you're correct, you're correct.

(I will no longer use "right" where "correct" is merited because the right never is correct. :D )

[seito]

60. On to the pajama drama

:D

[Shopaholic]

61. I have been rendered speechless by the sight of KO

back in his element and in our midst once again.

[Patsy Stone]

63. No @#$!

How wonderful... :)

:loveya::loveya:

[sparky_in_ma]

64. And in great form!

Hi Shopaholic:hi:

[SharonRB]

62. Uh, oh -- Sparky -- was that you

stealing all those thongs?

[sparky_in_ma]

66. Bodices .....I take bodices only

O8)

[SharonRB]

70. Picky, picky, picky

[sparky_in_ma]

80. : )

A specialist. I have nothing aganist thongs.:smoke:

[RevCheesehead]

65. Great line about the woman who married at age 67.

"she rejected nine previous proposals, because she was waiting for Mr. Right... who apparently took the scenic route."

[Clark2008]

79. Ahhhh... so that's where my Mr. Right is

Out there on the backroads, stopping to smell the roses.

:silly:

[RevCheesehead]

89. At least your's is doing something productive.

Mine is probably lost, and refuses to stop and ask for directions.

[sparky_in_ma]

94. LOL

You know us too well.:D

[RevCheesehead]

100. that's what scares you guys off.

:cry:

[sparky_in_ma]

107. Not a problem

they have an operation now that will make you as smart as any man. First we drill a hole in your head and suck out half your brain.....

[RevCheesehead]

133. please.

I've scared away too many to count.

But, I have to be me. Won't settle for less. :)

[sparky_in_ma]

136. You shouldn't

we love you because of who you are.:pals:

[Gogi]

231. My Mr. Right is on an extended tour of antarctica.

Happy days are here again! (I have no life.)


:loveya: KO
Keep up the good work!

[Horse with no Name]

67. I rarely get to this thread during the golden hour,lol

But doesn't he seem a little "discouraged" tonight? Or is my mood simply reflecting to his?

[sparky_in_ma]

73. He seems combative to me

He's the only one who has been willing to call the Republicans on their hypocrisy. Nice to see you :hi:

[Patsy Stone]

77. Not at all

He seems fired up and ready to go at the and the NeoCons with both barrels blazing. Plus, the news ain't so good tonight...

Nice to see you, HWNN!

[bunny planet]

72. Ok, I have to condense my responses since I'm only here during

commercials...

The Ice Princess visits the ice-skating rink.

Isn't it great that the bliv*t allowed the assualt weapons ban to expire.:mad: :mad: :mad:

The Thong song... I endured that one in my household for way too long and I haven't missed it at all:puke:

See you in a minute. Time for stair cardio.

[Patsy Stone]

99. bunny, I've missed you so

Girl, how you doing?

[bunny planet]

117. Oh that's so nice to hear.

I've missed you too Patsy sweetie dahling. I'm fine, a bit overworked and underpaid but fine nevertheless. HOw's by you bubby?

[Patsy Stone]

126. About the same

but KO's back, we're all back and in fine form, and I'm walking on sunshine. :)

[seito]

105. Hi Bunny

Nice to see ya :)

[bunny planet]

122. Hi Seito!!!

:hi:
Such sad stories tonight.:(
:grouphug:

[Nothing Without Hope]

217. Hi Bunny! Only saw this post now - you may be gone

but I still want to say it's good to see you and to hear all is well in Thumperland!

Keith really hammered the neocon-nazis tonight! I think he's personally outraged by their incredibly cruel hypocrisy in the Schiavo case. Must take real guts to keep at this job when you actually do care about justice and have such a broad streak of kindness.

:loveya: Keith :loveya:

[bunny planet]

220. He's so non-Poodle press isn't he?

:hi: Hope.

[Nothing Without Hope]

222. Oh yeah. When he's genuinely angry, he is something for those criminals

to fear. And something to help us keep our spirits up and keep fighting.

Take care with those stairs, Bunny! :pals:

[understandinglife]

74. Good evening wonderful KOEBers. Our "Mission NOT Accomplished Day"...

....needs help.

Will Pitt is writing an essay supporting the endeavor. That will enable us to get many individuals and organizations to consider being supportive.

The original DU page is:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3292082

What Will needs is a web page, separate from DU, that he can reference in his essay that will persist. Essentially a web page that contains the text that we are going to post in DU Activism (sfexpat2000 has written a draft and puebloknot is reviewing it), and perhaps additional information. I have no means of creating or hosting such a web presence. Can any of you help?

It might be worthwhile to create "missionnotaccomplished.org" and I would pay whomever did that the registration fee.

For even considering this, let me offer all of you more than one

:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:

Peace.

[sparky_in_ma]

90. Hi UL

Sorry, I haven't the web knowledge to set one up. I support the idea and would also be willing to help financially.

[understandinglife]

139. Thank you so much Sparky!! We're all set, and should have...

...the site up within the next 24 hours.

Peace.

[understandinglife]

237. Good afternoon Sparky -- the site is up....

....and I appreciate your offer to help. Will's essay should appear tomorrow and a thread will be posted at DU Activism and Events and then its up to all our fellow citizens to make it happen:

http://www.missionnotaccomplished.us/

Peace.

[SaveAmerica]

102. I believe David Allen was looking for similar help a little while back..

Right after the Nov 2 farce, if I'm not mistaken he had the domain but needed the tech help. Maybe your forces could join?

[understandinglife]

145. We're underway. And, I will contact...

....David to let him know what we're doing.

Peace.

[Nothing Without Hope]

143. Hi UL! Buying a domain name is easy if it isn't already taken.

and if the word with the .org suffix is gone, there's still .net, .com, and .us. Some of the domain sites have software for building web sites, but I don't know anything about that myself.

But there are so many people out there that know all about this. The trick is to find the right connections. There are a number of other progressive activist sites, perhaps one of them might have practical skills and the time to give?

[WhirlyGirl]

75. WhirlyG: A 1000-Post Tradition of Joy! Originality! and Snark!

HAIKU FOR KEITH,
on the Occasion of My Thousandth DU Post
by WhirlyGirl

:loveya:

Can't find enough ways
To praise you, O Kahuna --
But I'll keep trying.

:loveya:

And here's to the KOEB -- "TO THE TIES THAT BIND!!!" :toast:
(Appropriate music: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/clipserve/B0000032VO001006/0/102-1322687-3102555 )

[sparky_in_ma]

82. Yeay!!

[seito]

84. Woohoo

Congratulations

[RevCheesehead]

85. YEAAAAAA!!! You did it!!!

:party: :bounce: :toast: :bounce: :party:

[Patsy Stone]

87. Very Nice!

And, of course, many congratulations!!!!


:toast: :party: :toast: :party:

[SharonRB]

88. Congratulations, WG!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :party: :party:

[Nothing Without Hope]

93. Hooray for WhirlyGirl's 1000th post! Long may she wave!

:hi: :hi: :hi:

[Sydnie]

96. Congrats WG!!

1000 wonderful posts! :loveya:

[Clark2008]

97. Happy 1000th Green!!

[bleever]

98. Congrats, WG. Welcome to the 4 digit club.

:party:

[Catchawave]

112. Congratulations ....you'll never forget where you were for this

milestone...weeehoooo :party: :party: :party: :party:

:loveya:

[CC]

116. congrats WG

WhirlyGirl

[WhirlyGirl]

132. LOL! Thanks, Ferretessa CC! ...I'm sure that's KO on that throne, not me!

[CC]

151. he gave it up for you for tonight. n/t

[WhirlyGirl]

160. Awww... isn't that just like KO? :-)

[WhirlyGirl]

121. Thanks, KOEBers & ASTBers, for all your good wishes!

I can't think of a nicer place to be to celebrate ANYTHING!!!

Hope, can we clink those champaign flutes now?

"TO THE TIES THAT BIND!" *CLINK*
:toast::toast::toast::toast::toast::toast::toast::toast::toast:

[bunny planet]

218. mazel-tov whirly girl.

:toast:

[WhirlyGirl]

235. Thank you, bunny...

... for putting a blessing on my head! :hug:

[RevCheesehead]

78. I swear - there are more shootings yet to come ...

this is so discouraging.

[Clark2008]

108. It's not the violence in movies - it's the violence on talk radio and

a news media that would rather chase a car than discuss WHY we're chasing cars. No investigation - just sensationalism.
Present company excluded - Keith rocks.

[RevCheesehead]

150. Personally, I think it's a reaction to despair.

What happens when people come to the end of their rope? What do they do when their local, state, and federally elected officials refuse to help them?

I am more worried about our future now than I was after the election.

[CC]

164. Can't blame you for worrying

I know I do. When their local, state, and federally elected officials refuse to help them, they hear hate every where... they learn their life has no value. If they feel their life has no value how can they put a value on anyone else's.

[RevCheesehead]

177. That's the key word.

Value.

One of my best friends has always claimed that value is central to our identities - of our selves, and how we treat others.

I think I need to call her - I need a "fix" to raise my spirits.

[CC]

203. It is so easy to show someone

their life has value. A kind word, an I care. I'm sure you know how easy it is. Just us regular people have to do what we can to counteract the message the govt. and hate media is sending these days. Sometimes all it take is a hi and a smile. So it can be done.

[Nothing Without Hope]

226. I agree. Kindness is AT LEAST as contagious as hate

Because it feels so glorious to both sides, and then it inspires more kindness.

Hate gives no real pleasure and certainly no joy. It is dead and hopeless, a last resort for hollowed-out people.

If we didn't have truthspeakers like Conyers and Boxer and their colleagues in politics and the few honest journalists that are left, I believe there would be widespread rioting. They help keep the fight for justice alive and also the hope that there are still things worth fighting for.

[Nothing Without Hope]

115. Yes, it's very discouraging. No getting around that. But here is some

good news: Rep. John Conyers has started up his blog and you can write to him directly. he might even respond.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1675727

He represents a hell of a lot more than his local constituency in Michigan. He's a hero and a touchstone for all of us, and now we can follow his daily doings.

[Clark2008]

130. John Conyers is a real hero

Tom Delay should take lessons.

[RevCheesehead]

166. Thank you for sharing words of hope.

You live up to your name - and I am grateful.

[Nothing Without Hope]

176. You're welcome, Cheese. I do believe that without the hope for justice

that Conyers provides, there would have been widespread riots and more shootings than there have been. When people are far down and believe they have nothing to lose, that's when the worst horrors are born of frustration.

But he's a living reminder that there IS hope and that the fight is worth carrying on. He carries himself with courage and pride and provides the best possible example. I can only guess how many people are alive today because of that.

[RevCheesehead]

194. But sometimes it piles up so deep, it's hard to find the way out.

I'm seeing this "up close and personal" right now with a domestic violence situation this past weekend. (I can't say any more than that). Then all this Schiavo stuff is just killing me. I spent the afternoon in the nursing home. When I hear the congressional idiots acting as if they have the moral high-ground, well....

Let's just say that sometimes the burdens of the world are too much to bear.

[sparky_in_ma]

201. That's when it's time

for faith (and us):hug:

[RevCheesehead]

212. thanks.

:hug:

[Nothing Without Hope]

209. Ah Cheese. I wish I were there. I'd fix you some tea and talk to you

about whatever came to mind. And I'd see to it --I can be very persuasive -- that you got out into a place of natural beauty and walked, alone or with a friend. I'd give you some cracked corn to feed the animals and birds there. I hope you have been able to make some time for your music. You need to feed yourself.
:hug:

Best I can do for now is this site with gorgeous photos:
http://www.notesfromtheroad.com/pacificnorthwest/pacificnorthwest.htm

And did you see the special surprise link CC left for you in last Friday's KOEB thread? You may have missed it because it was only left on the 21st:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=345780&mesg_id=346851

[RevCheesehead]

215. Tea sounds perfect.

And I've got a roast in the oven. Hmm... could not eating for a while have something to do with it?

And the music thing: you hit it right on the head once again.

Thank you. :hug:

I'll see you guys tomorrow. Good night.

[Nothing Without Hope]

223. Oh yeah, not eating for a while can surely hurt

Good night, Cheese! See you tomorrow!
:hug:

[Greylyn58]

103. Does anyone else think

that Michael Jackson's face looks really unreal? He looks like one of those store mannequins. Almost plastic.

I still like his music, but I'm really beginning to think the boy has lost his mind.

:shrug:

[sparky_in_ma]

111. Oh....his mind has been missing

for a very long time.:silly:

[Sydnie]

114. Mannequins look better than he does.

He looks plastic because he is mostly plastic. The rest of his body might biodegrade someday, but not that face ... ever!

[SharonRB]

119. Beginning to think.....

Come join the rest of us who have known it for a long time.

[Patsy Stone]

179. Okay, work with me here:

MJ and Helena Bonham-Carter in Planet of the Apes... Separated at birth??

[bunny planet]

110. I have never been so relieved to see Michael Jackson coverage ever.

Those back to back stories about those two little girls and the monsters who killed them are more than I could take.

I checked out the website in Florida that lists known sex offenders and their addresses just before I brought my kids down there last year. Found two within blocks of our house. It gives me chills. Those poor families. The nightmare to end all nightmares.

[sparky_in_ma]

125. There's two in my neighborhood

Level 1 (most likely to re-offend). I live in a small rural community, it's scary. Why are they free if they're likely to do it again?

[bunny planet]

149. Awhile back there was talk about giving convicted sex offenders and

pedophiles some kind of drug that would work as a temporary 'castration' agent, in other words get rid of the urge entirely in those individuals without actually doing it surgically of course. Sounds like a plan to me. Probably not fool proof resolution to the problem though.

My neighborhood in Florida is quite a small beach community. Scary as all get out to have such people living so close.:scared: I can't even let my little ones outside alone to chase salamanders. It's a troubled world we live in that's for sure, although predators existed when I was a child too, I was almost kidnapped by one.

[sparky_in_ma]

158. Chemical castration can work

and should be required before they're released. Or simply not release them. This is one issue I'm real hard line on. ( sorry to hear about your experience. And you're right, kids can't be outside alone anymore.

[Sydnie]

193. terribly difficult to manage though

It would have to be treated as a daily visit situation, not unlike a methadone clinic. You would have to track these men every day and make sure that they showed up and actually ingested their daily doses.

These guys are looking for the thrill of the control over someone else. The sexual preditor portion is just one element of it, it's the power of life and death that drives them. Same for men that rape adult women, most of them are not driven by the sex act but merely act it out as a release after the fact. There are, to be fair, a measurable number that need that stimulation to be able to perform sexually, but among rapists, that is not the majority I don't think. If you look at the stats, often rapists (especially serial rapists) are married with outwardly appearing normal lives. That's what amazes everyone about those that do it repeatedly over the years. Not unlike the BTK dude.

[sparky_in_ma]

206. Good points

Then I must revert to my fall back position. Throwing away the key. ( on this issue, and domestic violence, my natural protective instincts take over. I don't care about the rights of the convicted at all.)

[bunny planet]

210. Yeah, I kind of thought that it wouldn't be a viable solution for all of

the reasons you just mentioned. I thought I heard something about depo-provera, which is also something that was used as birth control for women and lasted a few months before you'd need another shot. Still doesn't address the power/violence control issue at all though, you are right.

[seito]

178. Thank goodness you are OK

:scared:

[bunny planet]

188. Yes, it was a long time ago but it still gives me chills when I remember

it. Kind of made me into the overprotective mom I am today with my own kids.

[Sydnie]

127. If they are actually where they list that they will be

this guy wasn't. Our local paper will, time from time, publish the pictures and addresses of those registered around here... along with a list of those that aren't where they say they would be. That is a great service for our community.

[bleever]

124. Should I care about steroids in baseball?

I'm having trouble.

:shrug:

[Patsy Stone]

128. No, but you should care

about the fact that now that John DeLorean's died, chances are slimmer that we'll get "Back to the Future" at 88 mph. :hi:

[sparky_in_ma]

131. Why do you hate America?

How could you not care what substances multi-millionaires put in their bodies.:+

[Patsy Stone]

153. LOL!

Why do you hate America? That's funny! :)

[bleever]

172. Because I hate freedom. And liberty. Ptooey on your freedom!

We will bury you! Even though we have to use smaller shovels!

[sparky_in_ma]

182. LOL

It is kinda fun to watch them shrinking.

[Patsy Stone]

191. Everyday in every way...

As Martha would say, "It's a good thing!" :)

[Sydnie]

135. Hi Bleev

Personally, I could care less what they do in baseball. Shoot 'em if you got 'em boys. Just don't sell them to my kids!

[bleever]

157. That's what I'm talking about.

Maybe it's the gamblers who felt cheated.

Frankly, I've gotten more upset about the NFL's "tuck rule" and bad pass interference calls than I have about this.

P.S.: Fergie Jenkins into the Hall of Fame now!

[bleever]

129. And, thank you John DeLorean, for muscle cars and the

girls they excite.

:)

[Clark2008]

155. I like muscle cars!

A car isn't a car unless it's a little "redneck."
While the DeLorean isn't, the Pontiac GTO IS - very much so!

[SharonRB]

137. I totally agree with getting rid of these ED ads

[CC]

147. the whole 4 hour line

has a few of us joking about a line of men waiting at the emergency room door while the women are rolling on the ground laughing. Figure they probably had to hold a gun to the men's head to get them to go in the first place. So now it always makes us laugh.

[Sydnie]

161. Can you imagine the language and visuals if they still had

douche ads on tv? Remember those ads? "Fresh as a summers breeze" indeed!

[sparky_in_ma]

167. OK ...let's cut a deal

NO ads for "personal products" for either gender. Especially at dinner time.:crazy:

[Botany]

198. That reminds me of .........

......

The Summer House on Gull Bay.

Sydnie always liked the cupola ever since her teen years. When emotions
and personal problems were swirling around her she would go there and
smoke her "Virginia Slims" and read saucy novels about the rich and powerful
and their little bedroom games. But now with it being fixed up with new
windows, the oak wood work stripped, sanded, and finished this was her
own castle was again. The round bed and the chair by the window
filled it quite nicely. It was her room alone. She thought about
calling off her appointment that eve because she wanted to keep the
place "pure" but her estrogen was strong and the red merlot had taken the
edge off.

A voice called from the foot of the stairs ..... "It is me Keith. Are you
or are you not decent?"

I slipped in both eve & summer ...... :puke:

[Sydnie]

207. Botany, I LOVE your nightly installments

By the end of the summer, you just might have a good book written if you keep that up. (did I just say that pun out loud?) I look forward to tomorrows "words of inspiration"!

[CC]

204. I vote no personal product

ads at all allowed and lets take all the drug commercials off the air.

[Greylyn58]

138. You know I gotta

say I'm with this Dem about the erection pills.

I'm getting sick of those ads. They are all over the tube.

Geez!!!

[SharonRB]

146. He shouldn't have too much trouble getting bipartisan support

on this one. I thought for sure it would be a Repub, but I agree with it no matter who starts the ball rolling. My husband and I are both getting really sick of these ads on all the time.

[Patsy Stone]

140. I think he enjoyed saying, "Moran"

also, he said, "Honey"... Fantasy fodder... :loveya:

[WhirlyGirl]

156. Notice the twinkle!

Anybody like to have a 4-hour experience with Keith?
(Would that be long enough??? http://new.wavlist.com/movies/144/lfb-longie.wav )

:loveya:

[Patsy Stone]

163. OMG!

Love at First Bite? Are you kidding? I saw that in the theater! :)

[bunny planet]

216. Pours ice water over head.

only four?

[Clark2008]

144. LMAO!! The comedy guy said he was rooting for the Panthers

and Keith said, "For at least four hours..." on the backside (HA!) of a Levitra story.

ROFLMAO!

[sparky_in_ma]

152. He had a great show tonite.

One of the best lately.

[Nothing Without Hope]

192. Now THAT is FUNNY!! There are indeed some downsides to not having

cable on my TV. He seems to have been in fine form tonight, and he spoke the harsh political truth about the Schiavo case.

Yesssss! Good to have him back! Even if not for the full 4 hours.
:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[sparky_in_ma]

208. : )

You said "full 4 hours".:D

[Nothing Without Hope]

221. So I did. Well, he makes a fraction of that time count for the whole

thing! So good to have a spokesperson on TV who still tells the truth. Would be much harder to keep hoping without that. We are not silenced! And the neocon-nazis' heartless, shameless hypocrisy in the Schiavo case is not going to give them the benefits they thought they bought with it.

I am so very pleased about his honesty and outrage tonight. His watchers might not be convinced by the facts alone, but when they see his honest anger, that can move them to suspicion at last. Then once they begin to ask questions and open their eyes, the lies and horror are out there plain to see.

Well, on that note, I think I'll finally relax enough for a Guinness! We now are well-supplied! ;)

[sparky_in_ma]

227. I was home today with a cold

and I kept switching channels to see what the coverage was like. No one else had the courage to even touch the idea that politics was behind this. Notice how the same people who cry "state's rights" now want the feds involved in a private matter.

Wait for it, this is the first salvo in the fight to over turn Roe v Wade. The whole "right to life" thing. I can read these people like a book, that is their main agenda. They don't give a damn about Terri one way or the other. She gives them an excuse to get started on an "all life is sacred" kick.x(

[Nothing Without Hope]

228. I've been saying that all day in various threads here. You can tell by the

talking-point language: "protecting an innocent life," "right to life," ad nauseam. (Actually, not ad nauseam, it's already arrived.) The short term goal was to frame themselves as saving an innocent young woman's life from the menace of her killer husband. (Part of the plan was to bait the Dems into fighting them so they could be framed as killers too, but that didn't pan out.) The longer-term goal is to set up a sequence of legal confrontations and incrementally creeping legal language to culminate with the overthrow of reproductive rights. I have no doubt at all.

The good news is that Keith and the WaPo have now both publically exposed the hypocrisy for what it is, with the story of the Texas law signed by Bush in 1999. The text of that law is all over the internet for anyone to read, and the WaPo is not so easily ignored. Traditionally, the American people have disliked hypocrisy and fraud, though it sometimes took a long time to detect it. But maybe this will start some questions at last. The polls show clearly that the great majority believe that Congress should not have intervened. Now the Texas pull-the-plug-if-they-can't-pay law will be out there too. It's damning in my opinion.

Real disgust is hard for a politician to overcome once they've earned it. I also think they made a mistake in having the Cockroach Man come out with such an attempt at a saintly halo on this issue. He is corrupt and almost everyone knows it. Did you see this cartoon that I posted upthread? Bush & DeLay aren't in it, but it makes the point pretty clearly. These images and the stories about the Texas law are oing to make a difference, I believe.



Edited to add:

Get Well, Sparky!

I hope the cold is gone tomorrow.

[sparky_in_ma]

229. Glad you agree with me on that

I've had a hard time explaining it to others. I was starting to think my hat was too tight.:tinfoilhat: : )

[Nothing Without Hope]

230. Oh no. That, along with the Hate Amendment, has been their biggest plum

for their rabid RW fundie allies. There were short-term gains to be made in the Schiavo case, but the long-term plan is OBVIOUSLY to attack reproductive rights. There's no other thing that could get them so sanctimoniously exercised.

Oh, and please refresh my post so you can see my get-well wishes - I can't believe I got so overwroght at the politics that I forgot that! Spring colds are such a bummer.

[sparky_in_ma]

232. Thanks Hope

Just a quick cold, it went through work last week. I like the way you think about what's going on.:thumbsup:

Good-nite.:hi:

[Nothing Without Hope]

233. Good night, Sparky. We seem to think similarly on these issues,

so we're obviously both very insightful!

Wake up all well, eh?
:pals:

[SharonRB]

181. Nite, nite

See all you lovely folks tomorrow night.

[Nothing Without Hope]

189. Good night, Sharon! See you tomorrow night! n/t

[WhirlyGirl]

196. G'night, Sharon...

... and others who must retire now.

Thank you again for making this such a memorable occasion for me.
I will save this thread! :grouphug:

:hi:
(Back later.)

[CC]

211. I need to get off here and get

some stuff done around here. I was up way to late last night listening to the fiasco. Hope everyone has a goodnight.


:loveya::loveya:KO :loveya::loveya:

[Nothing Without Hope]

214. Oh, this super-smilie must be seen to be believed!!!

Seito has some serious competition here as undisputed Queen of Smilies!

(And that Doonesbury cartoon you left for Cheese last Friday was so perfect! I gave her a headsup about it upthread in case she hadn't seen it)

Good night, CC! :hi:

[CC]

236. Must be that Cheasepeak Bay water

or the crabs & beer,crabcakes,O's , Ravens or air. Though will admit I have a ways to go to catch up.


:loveya::loveya:KO :loveya::loveya:

[Nothing Without Hope]

224. Can't reist posting this wonderful cartoon here - "Moral Bankruptcy"

It's a Tom Tomorrow cartoon I found today at AllHatNoCattle.net:

[crispini]

234. Hi ladies!

Great thread tonight... looking forward to the rerun. Sounds like it was a great show! And congrats WG!

Here's some pics from our AAR party! Woooo! BTW, I made the signs. It was all sort of thrown togeter at the last minute but it came out really well!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=180&topic_id=11665&mesg_id=11926