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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 03:15 AM
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"Mr. Stolen Election 2004" ...NEY NAILED... This one's for you Ohio!!!
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 03:52 AM by autorank
Here is the Congressman who set up the investigation of the Ohio election and brought in a few day old "voting rights" group to buttress the indefensible case against stolen election 2004. In their quest for to curry favor with those in power, some people's desperation leads them to a tragic end. Ney was one of "the architects." Who will be exposed next?



Senate's Abramoff Report Disputes Rep. Ney
Indian Affairs Panel Cites Lobbyist Abuse of Tax Exemptions



By Susan Schmidt
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, June 23, 2006; A01
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/22/AR2006062201711.html

In the fall of 2004, Rep. Robert W. Ney (R-Ohio) told Senate investigators that he was unfamiliar with a Texas Indian tribe represented by lobbyist Jack Abramoff. Days later, evidence emerged that the congressman had held numerous discussions with Abramoff and the Indians about getting Congress to reopen their shuttered casino.



Ney's statements to staff members of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee were included in the panel's 357-page report on tribal lobbying, released yesterday after two years of hearings and investigation. Accompanied by more than 1,000 pages of e-mails and financial ledgers, the report catalogues the now mostly familiar story of how Abramoff and his lobbying team of former congressional aides bilked half a dozen tribes out of more than $80 million.

The report includes new details about some of Abramoff's activities, including his collaboration with former Christian Coalition leader Ralph Reed and conservative strategist Grover Norquist. The Senate report recommended that the Senate Finance Committee investigate the use of tax-exempt organizations "as extensions of for-profit lobbying operations."

Ney's comments to the panel could add to his problems with the Justice Department. Federal prosecutors have secured guilty pleas from Abramoff and three former associates implicating Ney in a string of official acts allegedly performed in exchange for favors such as a golf trip to Scotland and campaign contributions.


www.electionfraudnews.com
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 03:32 AM
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1. Ney's Hearings on Ohio 2004...Even Blackwell didn't want to show up.
From Bradblog: 03/22/05
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=1276
Blackwell Finally Testifies in OH as a New 'Voters Rights' Group Appears 'Talon News-style' out of Nowhere…


Unlike the previous hearings last December in Columbus run by Democratic members of the U.S. House Judiciary Committee, this committeee, led by Ohio Republican Congressman Bob Ney was given a hearing room in Ohio's State Capitol building. (The Judiciary Committee member's hearings last year had been originally scheduled to take place in the statehouse, until "someone" decided they were not welcome there. But we digress.)

Ney has been a big supporter of the Help America Vote Act (HAVA), and has shown an interest on the CHA website in doing everything possible to leave the flawed Help America Vote Act (HAVA), hastily passed in the wake of the 2000 election debacle, in place and unchanged so that things like mandatory paper ballots with every vote cast cannot be amended to the law. HAVA sets asides millions of federal dollars for the purchase of new electronic voting machines from a few select private companies.

Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, tasked with running a free and fair election in the Buckeye state last November –even while he was tasked with being the OH Co-Chair for the Bush/Cheney Re-Elect Committee — finally decided to show up and take some questions yesterday.

New 'Non-Partisan' 'Voting Rights' Org Appears Little More than Republican Front Group!
6-Day Old Tax-Exempt Group Run by High Level GOP Operatives!
(GOPUSA/Talon News, Anyone?)


and...More Brad Friedman reporting
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=1277

Republicans seem to have a new found interest in the Electoral Reform movement. An article today from the extremist rightwing web publication WorldNetDaily attacks Sen. Hillary Clinton's election reform bill with quotes from several critics, but none from either Clinton or other supporters of the bill.

In Ohio, state Republican legislators are attempting to raise the cost for candidates seeking a recount after an election. While in Georgia, Republican legislators are trying to pass laws requiring voters to produce Photo ID at the polls.

And yesterday, Ohio Republican Congressman, Bob Ney, chairman of the U.S. House Administrative Committee held hearings in Columbus on the massive reported problems during the 2004 Presidential Election in the Buckeye state.

Perhaps something is suddenly causing Republicans to try and get on the offensive when it comes to the drumbeat of Election Reform now surging across America.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 06:34 AM
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9. Is WorldNetDaily a Moon Front?
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 08:30 AM
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13. One hand applause
for the DEMOCRATIC Party's response to getting behind election reform. As with the obvious 2000 election theft, the ones who get ahead of election reform are those that need to cheat the most. it was also necessary for the democrats to take the lead on reform, but they they were more concerned on getting votes that would eventually be suppressed(because unlike the GOP they know that popular support is only a Dem goldmine) and for the equally bewildering self-defeating logic of being bi-partisan- that is, constantly acceding more and more voice to the GOP because they plunder more and more seats- and thinking that getting some advantages from HAVA(in appearance only) is something they can pat themselves on the back for.

This same mysterious deference to fraud afflicts almost all dem reticence in many other blatant policy challenges. Lies take the lead. Challenges are soft. Getting behind or ahead of the people doing the real opposition or the real reform work is done as if the leadership and their advisers are castled somewhere on Mars. One by one isolated voices and a frustrated branch of Dem progressives(i.e. those who know what the word "progress" means) talk the talk, but GOP action is deferred to with excessive caution.

Where were the Democrats after 2000 on election reform when it was obvious the next GOP step would be a DRE sales pitch scam and more cheating that would be even easier as they extended control? Absent in action and humbly muffled by the GOP media definition of reform as modernizing and smoothing out the mess(for which somehow ALL were guilty) with the fearful subtext of not "discouraging" or informing voters that ever higher walls await the next wave of futile popular Dem support. At the same time whatever examples to be made of fraud would be tiny, and by definition, any inroad to suppress democratic votes whether fraud existed there or not. Totally aggressive. Totally knowledgeable. Totally enabled by the MSM and the utterly prone position of the main party voice.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 02:17 PM
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15. I couldn't say it bettter...
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 02:50 PM by autorank
...but I'm sure I'll try at some point.

This captures the brute force attack we're enduring: "Totally aggressive.
Totally knowledgeable. Totally enabled by the MSM and the utterly prone position
of the main party voice."

Here is one angle on HAVA. A traditional problem Democrats have is the "spoiled ballot" program -
inferior equipment to minority districts that results in disproportionate spoiled ballots. In a
purely logical way of looking at HAVA, devoid of any history or political motives, DRE's would
solve that problems and actually gain the Democrats votes. This is obviously flawed on multiple
levels but I'll bet that was the pitch to support HAVA. It seems some of them still think it's
true. The Stewart v. Blackwell decision in Ohio 6th reflected this limited logic and represents
a huge win for the Blackwells of the world. Even though Blackwell lost that case. I'm sure he
laughed all the way to the nomination. It was Blackwell, afterall, who placed Diebolds all over
Ohio well before the 6th handed down it's decision (hardly a great victory clean elections).

Excellent points. Thanks.


For those interested in the long term history of disenfranchisement,check this out.

Ballot Manipulation and the Menace of Negro Domination” Racial Thread & Felon Disenfranchisement in the USA, 1850-2002 http://www.socsci.umn.edu/~uggen/Behrens_Uggen_Manza_ajs.pdf


www.electionfraudnews.com
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 04:24 PM
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17. They are always the AGGRESSOR...
about everything. You rarely see them defend an issue. They just attack, attack, attack. They're as aggressive as rabid pitbulls...
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 04:09 AM
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2. From Bob Fitrakis, The Free Press ... Ney as in moNEY
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 04:44 AM by autorank
Fitrakis and Wasserman were on the case long ago. THEY KNEW. HIGHLY ACCURATE REPORTING!
THAT'S WHY FITRAKIS, A PH.D. AND ATTORNEY, HAS RECEIVED 8 JOURNALISM AWARDS FOR HIS REPORTING.
In the blocked paragraph below, we FIND that the invented Republican "voting rights" group was
the source of our current nasty movement for Voter IDs, even predating Carter-Baker. Sweet!




As Alito takes Supreme Court seat, Ohio GOP guts election protection
by Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman


February 1, 2006
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2006/1754

In other words, the type of legal challenge mounted to the theft of Ohio's electoral votes in the 2004 election will now be all but impossible in the future.

Section 35-05.18 of HB3 requires restrictive identification requirements for anyone trying to vote in an Ohio election. Photo ID, a utility bill, a bank statement, a government check or other government document showing the name and current address of the voter will be required.

This requirement is perfectly designed to slow down the voting process in inner city precincts. It allows Republican "challengers" to intimidate anyone who turns up to vote in heavily Democratic precincts. It virtually eliminates the homeless, elderly and impoverished from the voting rolls. Election protection advocates estimate this requirement will erase 100,000 to 200,000 voters in a typical statewide election. By way of reference, George W. Bush allegedly carried Ohio---and the presidency---by less than 119,000 votes in 2004.

The ID requirement is the direct result of intervention by two high-powered Republican attorneys with ties to the White House and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.). Congressman Bob Ney allowed the Bush-Cheney re-election national counsel Mark "Thor" Hearne to testify last March as a so-called "voting rights advocate." Hearne, whose resume shows no connection to voting rights organizations, was responsible for advising the Bush-Cheney campaign on national litigation and election law strategy during the 2004 election. See:



http://www.lathropgage.com/people/bio.aspx?bioid=8185 and http://www.lathropgage.com/ files/tbl_s47Details %5CFileUpload265%5C351 %5CTHOR_Insert.pdf.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 04:11 AM
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3. Ney Loses it with Veteran Reporter...for asking questions!
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 04:36 AM by autorank

Rep. Bob Ney Lashes Out At Reporter: "Please--Please--Print This Paul--You Don't Care About Ohio-I Am Sick Of Your Crap"...



http://www.timesreporter.com/index.php?ID=54956&r=2

The Times-Reporter | George E. Condon, Jr. | Posted June 9, 2006 03:53 PM

Rep. Bob Ney, under enormous political and legal pressure for more than a year, has lashed out against press coverage of his plight, voicing great displeasure over stories focusing on the controversial golfing trip to Scotland that threatens his grip on the congressional seat he has held for six terms.

In two rambling e-mails sent from his Blackberry device to Copley News Service reporter Paul Krawzak, the Republican congressman from Ohio ridiculed the veteran reporter, challenging his ethics and mocking the 5-foot-7-inch Krawzak as “big man.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 04:16 AM
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4. "Is he worth your sympathy. Ney, I say, Ney he is not." LeeRussOpEd
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 04:19 AM by autorank

Bob Ney melts down



News

By Lee Russ, Section OpEd
Posted on Fri Jun 09, 2006 at 05:58:43 PM EST
http://watchingthewatchers.org/story/2006/6/9/175843/7668

Bob Ney, the Republican Congressman from Ohio appears to be about neck deep in the Abramoff scandal (not that you can always tell, since he's become invisible to Republicans).

<snip>

It is indeed likely that Ney feels misunderstood and unappreciated. If nothing else, he must know by now that he won't be getting any more freebies from Abramoff. Then there's the whole need to re-elected thing. And he probably doesn't like it much that he can't open an Ohio paper very often without running into a description of his pandering to Abramoff and receiving bennies in return.

Tough. Should have thought of that before disgracing himself and his office, and casting a pall over his family, to get a little more of the good life that can befall any unethical sleazo who manages to get elected to one of our two legislative houses.

Is he worth your sympathy. Ney, I say, Ney he is not.



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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 04:34 AM
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5. moNEY "fighting the law on two fronts...The Nation
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 04:38 AM by autorank


The Ney Scandal Grows


Ari Berman
posted December 15, 2005 (January 2, 2006 issue)

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060102/berman

Ney is fighting the law on two fronts. He's already been subpoenaed and has reportedly received word of a possible indictment in the SunCruz case, which goes to trial January 9, with Abramoff and his mob-tied partner, Adam Kidan, facing federal conspiracy and wire-fraud charges. Kidan recently copped a deal and agreed to testify against Abramoff and Ney. And Ney could also face legal action in the massive Justice Department probe prompted by John McCain's high-profile Senate Indian Affairs Committee investigation of Abramoff. "Gratuity and bribery charges have two ends: donor and donee," says Stan Brand, a top Washington criminal defense attorney and former counsel to Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill. "I deduce from these facts that it's inevitable Ney will be charged."

"The facts tell a damning story. Ney placed statements into the Congressional Record haranguing SunCruz--and then added another statement praising the company seven months later, in October 2000, after Abramoff had acquired SunCruz and days before he donated $10,000 on Ney's behalf to a GOP fundraising committee."



Abramoff hosted a $1,000-a-head fundraiser for Ney in March 2001, and frequently comped Ney's meals at his Washington restaurant, Signatures. Ney inserted a provision into a bipartisan election-reform bill, granting another Abramoff client, the Tigua Indian Tribe of El Paso, Texas, gaming rights--the very rights Abramoff had fought against a year earlier as a lobbyist for the rival Louisiana Coushatta Tribe.

"Just met with Ney!!!" Abramoff wrote in an e-mail to Scanlon in March 2002. "We're f'ing gold!!!! He's going to do Tigua." Six days later Abramoff instructed the Tiguas to donate $32,000 to three of Ney's political action committees.

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 04:42 AM
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6. Delicious!. . . Now, about that Reed guy...
"Coushatta official William Worfel said Abramoff let the tribe know that its funding of Reed's operation had to be kept quiet. "It can't get out. He's Christian Coalition. It wouldn't look good if they're receiving money from a casino-operating tribe to oppose gaming. It would be kind of like hypocritical."


"kind of, like" Yup.

nominated

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 04:47 AM
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7. anna!!! Good morning...the Reed stuff is priceless...he's an election
fraud guy too. What would it be like to be in the same room with Reed, Abrmahoff, and Ney? "The Horror"

And to think, these guys tell us we're nuts for thinking they'd steal an election (as do a few
around here;)

:hi:
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 06:26 AM
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8. WooHoo, The Bad Guys are going down!
Good news for us in Ohio!
K&R
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 06:34 PM
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20. This is a fall from media grace alright. And lookie who wrote it;)
There must be hushed conversations all over DC. "Is the Post actually going to cover us. Holy cow!"

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 07:38 AM
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10. I have been warned not to get my hopes up here despite the
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 07:42 AM by mod mom
obvious. I have heard Ney has connections that will protect him at all costs. I hope this source is wrong and Ney will look justice square in the face! (donned in orange)

Thanks Auto, I am cautiously optimistic on your post. We've been sure before-in Jan 2005, with Rove, etc. We have discovered in buSHAMErica justice is tainted. (JUST NOTICED SHAME APPEARS)

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 02:25 PM
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16. This is great news...
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 02:25 PM by autorank
...protection like that would have prevented this article. Look who wrote.

It's all good or at least, it's all whatever...;)
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 04:29 PM
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18. He's been in the news before surrounded w scandals:
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 04:31 PM by mod mom
this info predates my involvement in OH politics but here is some background:

(Two of Ney's former aides in state government, Tom Strussion and David Randall, both served jail time in the PIE medical malpractice insurance scandal in Ohio in the late 1990s. Both former Ney aides landed lucrative lobbying/consulting jobs.

I probably mentioned this already, but Volz was a former Statehouse aide to former Senate President Stan Aronoff. Both Aronoff and Ney escaped any serious charges in the Statehouse honoraria scandal of the mid-1990s which, in part, inspired term limits and new campaign finance regulations in Ohio.)

******

So perhaps, as before, an aide (Volz?) will take the fall and then land w a lucrative apptment. Hope I'm wrong, but this contact, whenever I send Ney indictment info always stands firm and says keep watching.

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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 05:40 PM
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19. we should repeat this over + over: bush america = buSHAMErica
this is great!!!!!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 06:37 PM
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21. ...and don't you love Lee Russ, the Ohio blogger. He just
tells it like it is, mid west style

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=435827&mesg_id=435831

Wouldn't want to wake up and read that about my predicament...just deserts.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 08:04 AM
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11. so pleased to be
friends with other election fraud fundamentalists. :)

11th Rec !!!
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 08:12 AM
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12. K&R- Paper ballots and Hand counts NOW!!! Democracy NOW!!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 02:17 PM
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14. K&R
:kick:
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Reckon Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 07:08 PM
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22. Ok, here's the deal.
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 08:05 PM by Reckon
Yahoo news is reporting this story {Washington tax-cut advocate aided Abramoff} but to keep it in the public view we need to {RECOMMEND THIS STORY}

The forces of DU can help by going to this link and emailing {RECOMMEND THIS STORY} to a friend or any email address. That will keep it on the "most popular page"

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 09:39 PM
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24. Headed there now. Thanks
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Einsteinia Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 08:39 PM
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23. Now for the other 3 crooks
in the HAVA plan to funnel billions of $ down the gullets of GOP-beholden e-vendors with machines with handy features.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 10:00 PM
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25. That must be what * meant when he said Wally O'Dell is "handy."
As in hand in in the kitchen jar. HAVA is a disaster designed to happen. We were had!!!
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 11:08 PM
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26. Neyled
.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 11:38 PM
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27. K&R.


Peace.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 12:17 AM
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28. Peace to you too!!! n/t
Your ubiquity is missed;)
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Snaggletooth Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 02:21 AM
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29. I keep waiting for all of them to get slapped with a RICO violoation!
Organized fraud & extortion accross state lines using phone and internet connections...that adds up to RICO. Wouldn't it be great if they were finally "neyled" on the main purpose of their crimes? But after the way Rover skated, it seems unlikely.

Snaggletooth the Crone
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