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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:17 PM
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Please read this, especially if you are draft eligible
Back in October, several things became patently obvious to me: Bush knew that he was going to lose this election, he was seriously overmedicated on anxiolytics (probably Xanax) and he was showing all of the small telltale signs of antidepressant use. These are observations from an experienced medical professional who has spent too many years in the saddle. (Any medical professional coming behind me should just watch tapes of the first two debates, which will confirm my assessment for you.)

Within a week of making these observations to friends and family, I saw a link to the following news outlet here on DU. In "The Voice of the White House" TBR's White House insider confirmed everything that I had observed independently, and the insider's narrative rang so true that I had no doubt whatsoever of its authenticity. I have read this column every week since that time. I am convinced that the following is the absolute truth. It's only one of the reasons why this recount is absolutely critical:

www.tbrnews.org

The Voice of the White House

(In recent past issues, we have carried comments from a very well-informed source inside the White House. Some of these remarks, most especially one about Bush’s physical and mental problems, drew an enormous number of viewers and hundreds of inquiries, most especially from foreign press entities. Our source was the first to expose, and we were the first to make public, the accusations that the President of the United States was a man that suffered from serious psychological problems. He also revealed ongoing plans to attack Iran. Since our initial publication of his postings, there has been increasing interest in the subject and herewith, we present additional input from inside the White House. If you have a weak stomach, do not read the following material. Not being able to either confirm of deny any of this information, we present it without comment or endorsement.)

November 20, 2004: “ It is pretty evident from where I sit that war against Iran is a dead certainty but no one here knows the mechanics of the attack. The actual military planning I know has been completed with several scenarios in place to choose from. I do know about the press agitation for this war. It is now working full blast.

Very cooperative networks, coordinating with the White House staff, are even now giving fake news stories about the danger Iran poses to America. They are so blind that they are using the same identical methods that were used to sandbag us into the Iraqi war.

Rove knows everything about manipulating public opinion but nothing at all about the deadly consequences of launching a new war in the Middle East.

There are some drawbacks to the planning, that much I do know. We do not know exactly where the Iranian atomic production plants are located. CIA informants inside Iran have supplied us with some information but considering how much they are paid (plenty) and how untrustworthy these informers have been in the past, it would not surprise many of us if they were feeding us bovine fecal matter by the shovel full.

However, it is this kind of useless crap that the President wants to hear and so it will be accepted. All of this is why Powell is quitting and Rice has been chosen to replace him. Why? She is an outrageous suck-ass for sure but consider this: Condi’s special field was Soviet Russia. She hates the Russians with a passion and is lusting for an opportunity to go after Putin and his people.

This is complete suicide because Russia has many deadly missiles and plenty of atomic weaponry. Will they use it if attacked? Of course they will but Bush is told that the Russian army is a shambles, their Navy rusting in the harbors and their aircraft grounded for lack of spare parts. There is some truth concerning the naval units but not the rest of it. Yes, the Russian army is much smaller than it was but if Fat Karl and his nutty friends bothered to read history, they would learn that when attacked, the Russians will fight to the death defending their soil.

If we think we are having “little problems” now dealing with an increasingly enraged 25,000,000 Iraqis wait until we discover, too late, that there are 70,000,000 Iranians and many more millions of Russians.

Bush is as crazy as a loon. I have heard him say, very coldly, that God got him reelected and that both God and the entire nation are now behind him. He believes he has a devastating mandate to rule but he does not. No one here would dare to even hint at this to him or they would get a dose of really foul language and a pink slip on the moment. Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Prez.

Bush probably got enough votes, but barely, and he certainly does not have any kind of a mandate. Nixon was an intelligent man (I worked for him) but during his second term, he let the power go to his head and this is exactly what Bush has fallen into.

Never believe your own lies.

Bush and Wolfowitz plus Rove and Rice see a powerful American empire that will rule the world through force, not diplomacy. Bush devoutly believes this crap and so do his people but the military and senior DoS people are not quite as confident. In fact, there is a very growing concern both in the Pentagon and Foggy Bottom that the fanatical and dim-witted Bush will take the lid off of hell and we will all be incinerated.

I have said it before and I will say it now:

There will be a universal draft.

There will be another major war in Iran with serious military threats directed towards both Russia and North Korea.

Bush and his people will clamp down completely on any form of dissent inside the United States to include shutting off any American access to the Internet that they all view with loathing and fear.

Bush has closed off any escape, either by potential draftees, deserters (whose numbers are now growing out of all proportions, or potential anti-Bush people whom they feel might set up resistance movements elsewhere) to Canada and will make it impossible for anyone of draft age (18-35), or dissenters, to even leave the country in the future. Very soon now, anyone subject to the draft may not leave the country on the grounds that they might not come back. I am telling you, my friends, there is very stormy weather ahead for all of us. Next? Nuremberg-style Bush rallies held throughout the country and lost of pretty pictures of our new ‘God-mandated’-Fuehrer for church, school and public office walls. (Probably mass-produced in China!)”

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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:22 PM
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1. In just one...
word really....AntiChrist!
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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:36 PM
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4. I agree, 100% n/t
n/t
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:24 PM
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2. Not in my Amerikkka Protest the FRAUD Dec6 & Jan 6. Stop this cancer NOW
VIVA
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:33 PM
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3. kick
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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:51 PM
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5. kick
In the public interest:kick:
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republikkkon Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:59 PM
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7. scaaaaaaaaary!
:scared:
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Stop Shrub Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:58 PM
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6. i don't think we are going after Russia
and this seems pretty out there, i think it shouldn't even be posted because it makes us all sound like nuts here, lets stick to the facts and get him out without paranoia that really is tin foil hat shit.
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:01 PM
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8. can i inject some skepticism.
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 04:03 PM by BREMPRO
i believe bushco wants to invade iran to control more of the oil resourses-and for simple greed, not security. BUT, given the lies that were dished out to invade iraq, the skepticism of the public and world press, the general resistance to a draft, the fact that we our military is now overextended and will be for some time in iraq, and the much more daunting task of invading a country with 70 million people and andvanced technology, don't you think that there will be insurmountable obstacles for their plan? And Russia? thats just too out there. The wild card- Iran attacks us- or a terrorist attack tied to Iran-i think this is unlikely and proof will need to reach a much higher threshold after iraq.

as far as the president on AD's , I'm not sure his performance in the debate was a definitive sign- he seemed more underprepared than under sedation. even if this is true, how does it affect his ability to govern? Aren't AD's supposed to make someone capable of a quality of life and performance of those not on AD's? I just think he's a deluded greedy lying ideologue, not a madman. I could be wrong.
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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:07 PM
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9. Oh really..
"The wild card- Iran attacks us- or a terrorist attack tied to Iran-"

Kinda like Iraq attacked us?

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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:21 PM
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14. my point was..
the circumstances are different now.. given the lies and deception that got us into Iraq. There is waning support for this war here, international outrage, and i don't think most Americans would support another one given what they know now. There would need to be more than just "slam dunk" evidence of a "imminant" threat or a devistating attack linked to Iran for us to reinstate a draft and invade them. I just think this is unlikely given the reasons previously stated.
That said, there are those on this site that believe 911 was orchestrated by this administration to get the political will to go to war. that's not outside my sense of the improbable.
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:10 PM
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10. Actually, wasn't there some mainstream news report
that said that he WAS taking some kind of anti-anxiety/anti-depressant medication? I think that fact was confirmed.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:15 PM
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12. I read about it
several months back in Capital Hill Blue, and CHB's article was picked up by a lot of other lib sites like

http://www.independent-media.tv/

which is a great site, by the way.
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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:17 PM
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13. Capitol Hill Blue is right
I read it there also. Thanks for the reminder.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:24 PM
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15. nicely said-yes, I am very skeptical of the US invading IraN-thanx
for the post
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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:11 PM
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11. Kick
:kick:
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:37 PM
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16. Thank you Y, for getting the message out.
I happen to agree with everything you've written.

Now as far as the draft, this is what I have concluded:

1) The draft will start to gear up in January.

2) The eligible age will be like you wrote, between the ages of 18 to 35. There will be a lottery based on around 15,000,000 eligible men and women.

3) Who has to go? If you're breathing, you're going. I've read the funny little threads where they claim if they are gay, they won't have to go. Or they have bad a bad knee or bad eyesight so they can't carry a rifle. Forget it. They'll find something for you to do. You can drive a truck, or cook.

4) Thinking about going to Canada? About 2 years ago, a bill was passed to where Canada has to extradite any American draft dodgers back home again. Looks like they had a crystal ball didn't they?

5) The people running things are absolutely ruthless. Please let go of any lingering hopes that they will be "nice".
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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:48 PM
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17. One caveat for medical personnel
Draft age for licensed medical professionals is extended to age 45.
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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:51 PM
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18. Oh, and you're welcome!
Recently I read a report on Kos about veterans who have been out of the service for 10 years being called up for active duty in Iraq. In a first person report, one veteran stated that someone reported for duty in a wheelchair. These guys are 50+. They are being sent into battle.
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tinfoil_beret Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 05:27 PM
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21. Just out of curiosity...
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 05:35 PM by tinfoil_beret
If one tried to enlist in the army in, oh, say, 1988, and the army rejected said person, due to, oh, say, bitemporal hemianopsia and "cerebral dysfunction", do you suppose that person would still be elible for the draft?
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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 05:44 PM
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22. I read elsewhere that the answer is "No"
That they will classify these people into non-combat support positions. This is a critical question for me because I have a daughter who falls into this category.

I wish I could remember where I read it.
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tinfoil_beret Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:09 PM
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23. I'm confused...
No, an individual who failed the physical wouldn't be eligible for the draft? Or no, an individual who failed the physical would be eligible for the draft but would receive an assignment in a non-combat support position?

Of course, I turn 35 in just over one year, so I probably don't have much reason for concern.

Would they draft women too?
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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:23 PM
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24. The answer was yes, they will draft you now. n/t
n/t
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tinfoil_beret Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:59 PM
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26. Skeptical
For some reason I doubt they will push the draft through so soon. If per chance they do, I could always take a lesson from the puppet and enlist in the National Guard.
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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:06 PM
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27. ANG Champagne Squadron....n/t
nt
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 05:14 PM
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19. This is nuts
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masshole1979 Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 05:21 PM
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20. Draft resistence anyone?
Is there a thread on DU that talks about ways to resist the draft, my fellow 18-28-(and possible 35 or older)-year-old Americans?

Whether or not this specific bunch of speculation is nuts or not, the possibility for a draft is extremely real. Just consider if there were a real attack on the US, there would be hardly any part of the military, reserves, or anyone affiliated with a gun-holding position left to defend us.

Bush would either have to give up on his Iraq adventure, or...

...of course, he wouldn't go back on a campaign promise would he?

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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:38 PM
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25. After reading this, All I have to say is yesterday was November 22..eom
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:03 PM
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28. what makes this so scary is that, based on everything that we, know . . .
and everything that has happened, the whole thing sounds entirely plausible . . . we'll know shortly, I suppose, if this guy has any credibility . . . check back to his November 8 post, in which he outlines his predictions for what's to come . . .

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1180.htm#001

"He (Bush) claims, and has done so in my presence, that God had given him a complete mandate< 51 percent and a lot of that outright stolen by the Rove people> to change the political and moral face of America! Rove is behind all of this, telling everyone that God did indeed demand a complete restructuring of the grossly immoral American lifestyle. Homosexuality is to be made illegal a form of Creationism to be taught in all schools, a modified draft, , military action against Iran and Syria, a strong message sent to both North Korea, the PRC and Russia to keep out of American business or suffer “serious consequences,” utter destruction of Iraqi cities that harbor any terrorists, regardless of the civilian casualties <‘Nits make lice,” as Rove told me when I mentioned the possibility of large casualties, to include women and children> US to get political control over the Ukraine and other Russian or former Russian areas, the securing of oil areas in Iran and the subsequent cutting off of exports to China and Japan with all oil being shipped either to the US or England. France, Germany and several other countries to be “starved of oil” for their lack of support for Bush, a board to be set up to control “vile and degrading pornography” in the films coming out of Hollywood and “encouragement” to produce more Mel Gibson-style religious films, the prohibition of any American citizen to make any investments or bank deposits outside the United States and the sequestering of any such funds in countries under treaty with us, resurrection of the old sedition laws to prevent any more criticism of government or what is amounting to the state religion, the overturn of Rove v. Wade and a host of environmental acts that Bush’s business friends claim are restricting their businesses, a strong encouragement to permit open and free immigration by Mexicans so they can supply American business cheap labor and replace some of the grunt jobs that even India won’t perform, laws to permit off shoring American jobs by business friends to improve their profit margins, investigation of legal possibilities to permit Bush to run again and the calculated marginalization of the Democrat party and a planned strategy to oust Democrats as state governors. Another planned assault on Democrats in Congress is being worked up even as I write. Rove has told me, and others, that this is to be a one-party state and if he achieves this, it will be his “crowning glory.”
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AmyCrat Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:00 AM
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29. NEWS: (11/23) Ukraine crisis threatens rift between US and Russia
Isn't it interesting
(and frightening)?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/ukraine/story/0,15569,1358199,00.html
Ukraine crisis threatens rift between US and Russia
<snip>---
Ukraine's political crisis deepened last night after three days of street protests and political drama threatened to cause a diplomatic rift between Russia and the US.

The opposition leader, Viktor Yushchenko, declared himself the winner of Sunday's presidential run-off against the Kremlin-backed prime minister, Viktor Yanukovich, by swearing himself in after an emergency parliamentary session. The EU and the US tacitly backed Mr Yushchenko's claims by stepping up pressure for a review of the election, which western observers have said was seriously flawed. "The US is deeply concerned by extensive and credible indications of fraud," said a White House spokeswoman.

But President Vladimir Putin of Russia, visiting Portugal, branded criticism of the election "inadmissible" as there were still no complete official results. Ukraine did not need to be lectured, he said.
---<snip>
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:30 AM
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30. KICK!
:kick:
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googly Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:45 AM
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31. Just to quote my personal experience with Xanax....
I was on Xanax for aprox 3 years, primarily for anxiety.
My job performance peaked during that time! My job was
designing particle accelerator components. It is just an
amazing medication. My sensitive stomach had no problems
whatsoever from Xanax. Almost any other medication will
upset my stomach easily. I could drive or play sports such
as tennis or golf while taking Xanax. Best part was, when
I no longer needed the medication upon retirement, it was
no problem! It is not addictive.
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ruthg Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:37 AM
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32. one little quibble
I am a mental health professional and I object to the " tell tale signs of anti-depressant use". Tell tale signs of stupidity maybe, but people taking anti-depressants do not have noticeable "signs"

Ok, Carry on.
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