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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:23 PM Original message |
When I stopped believing in Hell... |
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greenman3610 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. do yourself a huge favor, trust me on this, listen to this show |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Thanks for the link... |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 12:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
222. I stumbled over your link about half an hour ago...THANK YOU SO MUCH! |
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Monkeyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. I don't know I think we are walking in hell now |
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blue sky at night (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
3. I am a christian, always have been.... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Yeah... |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
4. Ii'm religious, and I came to the same conclusion you did, and |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
5. Hell was one of the first things to go... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. And... |
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nytemare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Like your sig quote. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 08:09 AM Response to Reply #20 |
47. "the margarine of evil" |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
48. Mine, too. |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
6. If a person told me I was going to hell, I'd know what they are actually |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Heh... |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Not too mysterious, Constantine's Sword by James Carroll explains |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Yet another book... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. The best answer I've heard when someone condemns you to hell is |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Lots of people have all sorts of opinions... |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
40. she seems the same type as my family |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. All people shape their beliefs in accordance with their personalities... |
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benddem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. I never believed any of it |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. Fear is control. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
8. Hell was not an original Jewish concept, but was borrowed from other |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Thanks! |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 10:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
98. And the corrollary |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. A good question. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 11:41 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. You make some good points :) |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 01:18 AM Response to Reply #102 |
107. Further responses... |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
9. I don't believe in hell... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. It doesn't sound nuts at all... |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
13. Well, The Jews Believe |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. This is true.. |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 07:35 AM Response to Reply #13 |
46. My rabbi taught me differently |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
14. No hell. How could God give babies cancer? |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Life is a lot harder than we realize... |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. So, do you think death is final... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 10:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Good question... |
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truthseeker1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. more book suggestions |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. My son said to me at the age of three, |
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truthseeker1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:12 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Children that age (up until about 3) |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. That is amazing... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
30. Why does hell make any less sense than heaven? |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I don't necessarily believe in Heaven either... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:33 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Interesting how close our beliefs are |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Interesting... |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
32. Thank you for this thread |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. That's very common among ex-fundamentalists |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Lol... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Thanks for saying this! |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-11-06 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
42. Near death experiences. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 12:17 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Here is 1 Corinthians 13: 1-13... |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 12:44 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. That is true... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 02:12 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Very nice... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 09:32 PM Response to Reply #43 |
211. I love that. nt |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 12:34 AM Response to Reply #211 |
225. Me too =) |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:22 AM Response to Reply #225 |
232. Yes, doesn't it? |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #232 |
238. A good use for it... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:23 PM Response to Reply #238 |
239. Yes, I see and feel that more as I age. I suspect at the moment |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 09:03 AM Response to Reply #239 |
242. Makes sense =) |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 12:24 PM Response to Reply #242 |
244. Perfect sense. nt |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
49. If anything, hell is more consistent with life than heaven. |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
50. I've always hoped for a hell, actually |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
51. Some 7th day churches teach that pretty much everybody |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
52. The wages of sin is death, |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 03:19 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. So there is no proof of heaven or hell |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. I respectfully disagree |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 06:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. I had a Muslim try to convert me once... |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 07:03 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Sorry but |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:43 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. You pretty much... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:14 PM Response to Reply #58 |
71. Do you realize how much you're talking out of both sides of your mouth? |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:27 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. I've said it before and I'll say it again... |
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MikeH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:58 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Good for you, Lydia! |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 01:47 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. We see things quite differently, |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 02:09 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. And it would STILL be sadistic of God to condemn someone for not |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 06:14 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. That's a tough sticking point for fundies... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 09:09 AM Response to Reply #81 |
85. What they do is displayed in post #58. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 06:54 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. 'The great equalizer',,, |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 08:15 AM Response to Reply #77 |
83. Good points! |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. It's called 'testing'... |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 06:12 AM Response to Reply #88 |
109. It's called 'deceiving' |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #109 |
118. Hey, they had it comin' =P |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 09:01 AM Response to Reply #71 |
84. Thank you, Lydia. |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Not simple, it is absurd.... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 04:15 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. You say we 'rightly deserve' eternal damnation... |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 05:51 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Answers |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 05:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Yeah, but swearing is a sin. Stubbing your toe and yelling out load |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Aren't you leaving a little something out? |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 08:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. LoL....man. I left it out because thats even MORE embarrasing. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 01:54 AM Response to Reply #67 |
75. This is too profane, angry and immature to be worth devoting |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 02:05 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. How ? Maybe because your "incomparable event" never actually happened ? |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 02:36 AM Response to Reply #75 |
80. immature and profane...definitely. Angry...not so much. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 06:15 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Boom, baby. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 02:18 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Lol...don't you know how this works? |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Of course =P |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 08:34 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. A slight (but important) correction |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 12:25 AM Response to Reply #93 |
105. But thats completely arbitrary, Zeb. Whats so important about believing? |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 01:07 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. You hit on a point... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #106 |
110. Marcus Borg discusses that in one of his books |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 08:13 PM Response to Reply #110 |
117. I don't know about you... |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 06:10 PM Response to Reply #105 |
111. You sure spend alot of time on the subject of religion |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Degress of punishment, Zeb. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 07:24 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. You've never been guilty of murder? |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. You keep quoting the bible... |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 09:35 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. You are the one ascribing negativity to God, |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:52 PM Response to Reply #119 |
125. Your God is evil. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:03 AM Response to Reply #125 |
140. Evil according to what standard? |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:05 AM Response to Reply #140 |
143. Objective. (n/t) |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:17 AM Response to Reply #140 |
149. Oh boy |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:06 AM Response to Reply #119 |
144. Yeah, but... |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:23 AM Response to Reply #144 |
150. Children are never eligible for hell |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:26 AM Response to Reply #150 |
152. Oh, how generous of the sadist. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:30 AM Response to Reply #152 |
155. They had knowledge of God's prohibition |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:37 AM Response to Reply #155 |
164. They still had no moral knowledge. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:33 AM Response to Reply #150 |
158. I've had fundies tell me... |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:35 AM Response to Reply #158 |
160. Good talking with you tonight |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:38 AM Response to Reply #160 |
165. Sleep tight. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:49 AM Response to Reply #119 |
175. "What does God want with a spaceship?" ~ Star Trek V |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 08:25 AM Response to Reply #119 |
198. What you do should be called 'cacangelism' - "spreading the Bad News" |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #198 |
200. Since Jesus is the ONLY way... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:16 PM Response to Reply #113 |
122. Lol...honestly. This just keeps getting better and better. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:47 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. I think Jesus' point was to educate people |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:54 PM Response to Reply #124 |
137. Well, yeah... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. As you can see... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:42 AM Response to Reply #115 |
170. I've had these conversations with Zeb before. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:45 AM Response to Reply #170 |
171. Well, you know, there is that temptation... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:47 AM Response to Reply #171 |
174. I realize my approach is less than effective. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:01 AM Response to Reply #174 |
177. As it is for Zeb too, I imagine |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:04 AM Response to Reply #177 |
180. One can only hope |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:05 AM Response to Reply #177 |
181. True, true...I have a fundie friend, and he hasn't been able to take the whole Evoman onslought. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:09 AM Response to Reply #181 |
182. I have. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:59 AM Response to Reply #177 |
185. You have him pegged. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:08 AM Response to Reply #185 |
186. Smile |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:22 AM Response to Reply #186 |
187. okay... |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:40 AM Response to Reply #187 |
189. We need to have a talk, Little Missy |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:53 AM Response to Reply #189 |
191. It's not my fault! I just saw bryant's latest thread calling Dawkins our "high priest". |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 03:00 AM Response to Reply #191 |
192. Dawkins isn't a high priest? |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 03:04 AM Response to Reply #192 |
193. Well, he hasn't been officially crowned yet. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 03:14 AM Response to Reply #193 |
194. All is well |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 03:18 AM Response to Reply #194 |
195. Yes, we'll take care of everything. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 03:31 AM Response to Reply #195 |
196. Have fun |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #196 |
197. Thanks! |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:31 AM Response to Reply #185 |
188. You think hes a conservative who sees DU as a Haven for Lost Souls? |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:51 AM Response to Reply #188 |
190. Oh, I don't think he should be tombstoned. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 11:16 AM Response to Reply #190 |
199. Zeb's alright... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #199 |
201. We ceremonially burn Jack Chick tracts |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 08:16 PM Response to Reply #190 |
203. Mmmmmm. Beeeer. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:03 AM Response to Reply #115 |
179. Nuh Uh ! |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 08:10 PM Response to Reply #111 |
116. But again... |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 09:43 PM Response to Reply #116 |
120. Perhaps this passage will be of some assistance |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:09 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. You keep quoting the bible. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:18 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. The existence of false teachings |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. Oh, please. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:12 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. That's just silly |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:13 PM Response to Reply #127 |
128. Give one good reason. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:17 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. Because it is the Truth |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:19 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. Prove it. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:28 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. This is what you have been reduced to? |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:37 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. Strawman |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:45 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. What does God need... |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:58 PM Response to Reply #133 |
138. Oh boy! |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:03 AM Response to Reply #138 |
139. It's infinitely disproportionate. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:04 AM Response to Reply #139 |
141. Again I ask |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:05 AM Response to Reply #141 |
142. Objective. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:11 AM Response to Reply #142 |
146. "Abuse" is a loaded term |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:13 AM Response to Reply #146 |
147. If it's arbitrary, it's abuse. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:24 AM Response to Reply #147 |
151. Sins are violations of God's law |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:30 AM Response to Reply #151 |
156. Hardly. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:43 PM Response to Reply #123 |
134. Yeah, but... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:50 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. God is apparently a sadistic bastard. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:09 AM Response to Reply #134 |
145. That doesn't fly with me |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:14 AM Response to Reply #145 |
148. You've got an epistemological problem there. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:28 AM Response to Reply #148 |
154. God said it. I believe it. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:33 AM Response to Reply #154 |
159. LOL |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:27 AM Response to Reply #145 |
153. Yeah, but.... |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:32 AM Response to Reply #153 |
157. No, it's like |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:35 AM Response to Reply #157 |
161. No, that's incorrect. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:36 AM Response to Reply #161 |
162. Good talking with you tonight, kiahzero |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:40 AM Response to Reply #162 |
167. Ah, yes, the expected two-faced bullshit. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:42 AM Response to Reply #167 |
169. But look on the bright side... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:45 AM Response to Reply #169 |
172. And all our friends will be there too! |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:37 AM Response to Reply #157 |
163. Right, but... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:39 AM Response to Reply #145 |
166. *Evomans head blows up* |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:42 AM Response to Reply #166 |
168. You know |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:46 AM Response to Reply #168 |
173. Lol....and the truth is, in the scheme of things, Zeb isn't even that bad. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:51 AM Response to Reply #173 |
176. Definitely |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:02 AM Response to Reply #176 |
178. You wanna know something...I don't even really hold any contempt for Zeb. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:34 AM Response to Reply #178 |
184. Yeah... |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:14 AM Response to Reply #145 |
183. You are quite right in saying that there is objective reality |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 09:50 PM Response to Reply #183 |
212. Why the Bible? |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 09:57 PM Response to Reply #212 |
213. Your links are retarded. |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 10:20 PM Response to Reply #213 |
214. Thank you |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 10:24 PM Response to Reply #214 |
215. Post stupid arguments, get stupid responses. |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 11:52 PM Response to Reply #212 |
218. Ok, here we go... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 11:57 PM Response to Reply #218 |
220. Nice of you to actually bother to explain why those reasons were stupid. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 12:32 AM Response to Reply #218 |
224. Good responses. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 02:11 AM Response to Reply #62 |
79. That's called the theology of substitutionary death, and it is not |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 09:43 PM Response to Reply #79 |
96. If a person does not believe in substitutionary atonement, |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 12:19 AM Response to Reply #96 |
103. The context of the Isaiah passages (the "Suffering Servant") passages |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 01:19 AM Response to Reply #103 |
108. If God turns out to be... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 06:20 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Response... |
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MikeH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
90. Zeb, do you have any thoughts or feelings of your own? |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. I can see that we do not see eye to eye |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 09:27 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. If you consider the Bible to be... |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 09:50 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Scripture interprets Scripture |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 10:41 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. I'm not sure I understand... |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 11:06 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. This will explain it for you: |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 12:22 AM Response to Reply #101 |
104. Ah, you're a Calvinist! |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-14-06 11:14 PM Response to Reply #104 |
129. Yeah, I like Calvin |
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MikeH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 11:26 PM Response to Reply #92 |
216. The psychology of unquestioning acceptance of authority is the same |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 11:31 PM Response to Reply #216 |
217. Actually |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
54. "Hell is other people" -Sartre |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. 'No Exit'... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 08:31 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. "Hell is Republican people" -me |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:39 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. My, mistake...there IS a hell... |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
65. Good for you, Elrond. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:41 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Thank YOU... |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 02:11 AM Response to Reply #69 |
78. I hear ya, I'm in the same boat. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:30 AM Response to Reply #78 |
234. My rector likes to quote someone (cannot remember who!) |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 11:23 AM Response to Reply #234 |
236. Faith without questions... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:25 PM Response to Reply #236 |
240. I'm afraid the trouble is that some people are only |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:28 AM Response to Reply #69 |
233. You know, they'd be entirely welcome at my church |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #233 |
237. Good to hear... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 06:27 PM Response to Reply #237 |
241. Ah, well it does seem to go in cycles, too. Perhaps as you |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 09:06 AM Response to Reply #241 |
243. We're working on the new members... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 12:27 PM Response to Reply #243 |
245. Ah devious you! Indoctrinate the small ones and the |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-17-06 11:19 PM Response to Reply #245 |
246. I am... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 08:10 AM Response to Reply #246 |
247. You sound like a very good teacher indeed. nt |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
87. Even though I'm now an atheist, hell was one of the puzzling things |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 09:08 PM Response to Reply #87 |
207. Oh I agree. That idea never made sense to me |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
95. I think hell is separation from God |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #95 |
202. Hell? Man..I can't believe I've been living in hell. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 08:35 PM Response to Reply #202 |
204. That's exactly what I'm NOT saying, actually |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #204 |
205. That sounds awfully Hindu (n/t) |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 09:06 PM Response to Reply #205 |
206. I'm becoming more and more of the opinion as I age |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 09:19 PM Response to Reply #206 |
208. That's largely where I'm at too |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 09:29 PM Response to Reply #208 |
209. Thanks! That's a good one to chew on! nt |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 09:30 PM Response to Reply #209 |
210. It's from a book called "Anansi Boys" by Neil Gaiman |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 12:30 AM Response to Reply #210 |
223. Sounds very interesing =) |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 12:34 AM Response to Reply #223 |
226. While you're adding books to the list |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 12:36 AM Response to Reply #226 |
228. I've been interested in... |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
219. No I don't....I refuse to believe in an abusive & unjust god |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 11:58 PM Response to Reply #219 |
221. Hey! |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 01:01 AM Response to Reply #221 |
229. You too? I had my last final (contracts) today. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 01:02 AM Response to Reply #229 |
230. I had contracts yesterday. |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 01:05 AM Response to Reply #230 |
231. Civ Pro is next semester for me. n/t |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-18-06 05:44 PM Response to Reply #221 |
248. None |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 12:35 AM Response to Reply #219 |
227. Seems kind of... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-16-06 08:31 AM Response to Reply #219 |
235. Lived through law school with my husband |
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