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J Williams Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 01:17 PM
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How can the meek inherit the earth?
Today it would seem impossible that the humble and meek could inherit the earth, since the proud and militant are able to exert their will with such great force in their efforts to rule the world.

However, I've learned that in due time the humble and meek shall indeed inherit the earth, and there is a message that explains how and why. If you have never seen this web site, or haven't seen it recently, you owe it to yourself and your loved ones to do so now.

http://realprophecyunveiled.netfirms.com

At the bottom of the home page there are links to many other pages on the crucial issues of our time.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 01:46 PM
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1. I don't see either the how or why there.....
perhaps you could point it out? :shrug:
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:10 PM
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2. Well, Jesus is claimed to have left it to them, but ...
it has yet to make it through probate.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:13 PM
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3. The day the meek inherit the Earth, is the day the meek turn around and become flaming assholes.
Power corrupts. No matter how much Jesus your filled with.
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J Williams Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 06:41 PM
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12. I would definitely agree that power corrupts. But...
I do not agree that the meek are, or would become, "flaming assholes."

A meek man is, in this sense, a real gentle man -- humble, compassionate, caring, peaceful, understanding, forgiving, etc.

The idea of this message is that the meek will be able to inherit the earth after the proud and militant (who pretend to be religious) are exposed as hypocrites and rendered contrite in the face of truth.

Additionally, the meek shall inherit the earth by establishing a new way to determine who represents us in government -- a way that puts an end to divisive partisan politics and the competition for the "throne" -- a way that enables us all the share the throne, as it were, to establish government that is truly of, by and for the people, rather than for the rich.

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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 09:08 PM
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24. My response
Edited on Fri Jan-19-07 09:14 PM by Evoman
"I do not agree that the meek are, or would become, "flaming assholes.""

Fine, but your wrong.


"A meek man is, in this sense, a real gentle man -- humble, compassionate, caring, peaceful, understanding, forgiving, etc."

Yes, exactly...the kind of man who inherits a punch in the mouth when he gets in the way of the non-meeks plan.


"The idea of this message is that the meek will be able to inherit the earth after the proud and militant (who pretend to be religious) are exposed as hypocrites and rendered contrite in the face of truth."

Over the last 2 thousand years (and probably thousands of years before that) the proud and militant have shoved Mr. Meeks face in the proverbial mud. In fact, Mr. Meek helps the proud and militant by being to meek to wrest control from the proud and militant. It only really takes one or two assholes to ruin any sort of goverment. Look at history, man! Powerful people manipulate the fucking sheeple and make them bow....its as easy for them as taking candy from a baby. And "the face of truth"? YOUR QUOTING PROPHECIES FOR GODS SAKE!!! GAH!

"Additionally, the meek shall inherit the earth by establishing a new way to determine who represents us in government -- a way that puts an end to divisive partisan politics and the competition for the "throne" -- a way that enables us all the share the throne, as it were, to establish government that is truly of, by and for the people, rather than for the rich."

Oh? And how are Mr. Meek and his friends going to do that? Every single goverment that has ever existed has done everything in their power to keep control. And every single goverment that has ever replaced those governments becomes almost as bad as the one before. You can put your head in the sand and dream of a world that will never exist all you want. In fact, as the population rises and global warming does its work, things are going to be worse than ever.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:14 PM
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4. Didn't Jesus say that your treasure would be in heaven?
So what does it matter who inherits the earth?
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:16 PM
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5. Man. Why do I feel like I need
to take a really hot shower and scrub my skin raw after reading that?

Where's the other shoe? What is this guy selling? Cause I know it's something.

Ick. Ick Ick Ick.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 03:55 PM
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8. Just scroll to the bottom, GM.
He of course has lots of books to sell.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 04:03 PM
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9. I just added this asswipe
to my 6,278 page list of reasons I hate religion. He came in at 13,592. I may shuffle him around a little bit, but I'm happy with that for now.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 03:20 PM
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6. It's not the Earth that the meek inherit,
It's the dirt!
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 03:36 PM
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7. And then the less meek will dominate the more meek
That line seems to assume that everyone who is meek is equally meek. Kind of a myopic view if you ask me.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 05:50 PM
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10. I am proudly announcing, for all you believers,
that I Evoman AM THE MEEKEST OF ALL! Bow before MY MEEKNESS, YOU UNMEEK SCUM!
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 08:17 PM
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18. So after you inherit
Can I still live on your planet or will you kick me out to wander in space for the rest of my life?
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 08:49 PM
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22. Are you kidding, my friend! You are almost as meek as I.
I shall impart to you local control of the area now known as Laos. I need meek leaders, as it were, to control subdivisions.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 09:40 PM
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29. Could I have Thailand instead?
They have some pretty good food there. It is not as good as New Mexico, but I'm not meek enough to get my first choice.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 09:43 PM
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30. You will take LAOS AND YOU WILL FUCKING ENJOY IT.
Don't make me give you a gat full of meek, you dig? Thailand has already been bestowed on you meeker superior, BMUS.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 09:52 PM
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31. You are sooooo right (grovel)
And that proves that I am not meek enough to get New Mexico. (But I would appreciate permission to visit on occasion for the chilies)
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 10:10 PM
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32. Oh hell, how can I refuse you. Your groveling meekness reminds me of me.
You can have New Mexico.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 10:11 PM
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33. HOT TAMALE!!!
With green chili sauce! I'll be in heaven!
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 10:13 PM
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34. No, my meek friend. You'll be on Earth. The Un-meek get heaven.
Edited on Fri Jan-19-07 10:13 PM by Evoman
*lifts eyebrow up sagely (and meekly)*
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 10:24 PM
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35. My lack of understanding is evidence of my humility. n/t
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 02:43 PM
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45. If I could just get that humility thing down
I'd be perfect.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 03:54 PM
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46. Too little, too late
You'll never be as meek as Evoman, but if you suck up just right you might still have a shot at Laos.
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J Williams Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 05:53 PM
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11. If the shoe fits....
wear it. If it doesn't, don't.

The author's books all all online to browse for free, and the web site posts highlights which cover most of the main issues.

It's not partial to any particular religion. It respects all religions that live up to their core teachings.

I truly don't understand the cynicism. But so be it.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 07:31 PM
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14. What did you expect?
I truly don't understand the cynicism.


What did you expect from a forum for debate of religious issues?

This is not a forum where we debate whether god is Super Great or just ordinary great.
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J Williams Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 07:53 PM
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15. I expected it. I just don't understand it, not when...
the message offends only religious bigots and hypocrites who claim to serve God when they don't. And that includes Bush and Robertson just as surely as it does bin Laden and his ilk.

The message is good news to everyone else. That's why I don't understand the skepticism and cynicism from those who are progressive liberals, which is what Joseph J. Adamson is.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 08:06 PM
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16. Now that's just nonsense
It is not good news to those of us who believe that your god is a figment of your imagination. In fact, it is a joke to those of us who see your god as a joke. Does that explain the cynicism?
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J Williams Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 08:35 PM
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19. That helps to explain the cynicism, but ...
Adamson's perception of God is very different from most most traditional Jews, Christians and Muslims. It's a bit more like the Buddha's view of the Supreme Consciousness, or Cosmic Consciousness, and a little bit like the Hindu idea of the Brahman, which is their omnipresent "God."

Adamson didn't see God as a person, but as an all-absorbing Light-Spirit that is above and beyond this world. He had an out-of-body experience, not from near-death, but as the result of a profound series of revelations that culminated in transcendance.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 09:20 PM
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26. Still sounds like a figment of someone's imagination.
Or maybe a bad joke. Can you give me any reason to take it seriously?
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 08:08 PM
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17. If there is no evidence that claims about divine beings are true
Edited on Fri Jan-19-07 08:12 PM by Heaven and Earth
then it really doesn't matter how much they agree with my political ideology, does it? Such agreement does not make them any more true.
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J Williams Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 08:39 PM
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20. It depends on what you mean by "beings"
Edited on Fri Jan-19-07 08:41 PM by J Williams
Adamson's perception of God is not really as a "being." See my response to cosmik debris above your last.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 08:42 PM
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21. There isn't any more evidence for a cosmic consciousness, Brahma,
or all-absorbing light spirit.
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J Williams Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 09:07 PM
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23. That's true. However, ...
there is much that is very real but not perceived by most. Those who have actually perceived or witnessed the Divine Light (for lack of a better word) find it difficult if not impossible to describe, or even to fully understand. But those who have witnessed it, like Adamson, say it is totally awesome and beyond anything we can imagine. In its presence there is total love and overwhelming ecstacy, and an incredible feeling of knowing that cannot be described. In the academic world it is called Cosmic Consciousness.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 09:19 PM
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25. How do you know if its real or not?
All you have is someone else's word about their personal experience. They might have misinterpreted what they were experiencing, or they could simply have made it all up.
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J Williams Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 09:27 PM
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27. That's easy.
Similar experiences are described in Buddhist literature, and in the Vedas. Adamson's experience is somewhat similiar to my own, but his was far more profound. But I do know what he's talking about, and I know what he says is true. It's also consisten with many stories by many who have had near-death experiences, and other experiences of yogis and others.

Adamson puts all that together and makes sense of the Bible by doing it. It's a very unique and very refreshing view.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 09:32 PM
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28. And yet, you all could be misinterpreting your experiences
Edited on Fri Jan-19-07 09:34 PM by Heaven and Earth
Haven't you considered the possibility that these emotions you are experiencing, and the near-death experiences, and all the rest are nothing more than products of the human brain, with no existence outside of it?

The brain is an amazing thing, and it can produce experiences that seem very real, but aren't. Dreams are like that, and yet dreams have no existence outside of one's own head.

I consider that a far more likely explanation than a divine being.
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J Williams Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 11:48 AM
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38. I would agree if I hadn't read so much that confirms it.
Edited on Sat Jan-20-07 11:53 AM by J Williams
There are enough accounts in religious texts and other books to show that there is consistency in the attempts to describe the Divine Light, whatever you want to call it. Adamson calls it the eternal, omnipresent Divine Light-Energy-Source of our existence, and that makes sense to me. The energy part is also called Chi and Prana, etc.

I think many people don't believe in God because the traditional Christian idea of God is extremely hard to believe. And that's because it's wrong. It's not compatible with the Jewish Old Testment idea of God, or with any other religion's idea of God.

Adamson points out that the most accurate and most literal biblical references to God are in the Old Testament, which states that “God lives in Light,” and “God is Light,” because that is at least closer to the real truth. That is why the Jewish/Judaic scriptures also state very specifically that “God is not a mortal” ... “God is not a man” ... and “besides God there is no Savior.” That is absolutely true, but that crucial truth was simply ignored by “Christians” when they established the doctrine of preeminence and superiority.

But God is also the Supreme Consciousness, which is how Buddhist literature treats it. And that is why the great Ralph Waldo Emerson said: “We lie in the lap of immense intelligence.” And yet it is also why Jean-Paul Sartre said: “Consciousness is a being, the nature of which is to be conscious of the nothingness of its being.”

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J Williams Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 06:45 PM
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13. The definition of meek is needed here
A meek man is, in this sense, a real gentle man -- humble, compassionate, caring, peaceful, understanding, forgiving, etc.

The idea of this message is that the meek will be able to inherit the earth after the proud and militant (who pretend to be religious) are exposed as hypocrites and rendered contrite in the face of truth.

Additionally, the meek shall inherit the earth by establishing a new way to determine who represents us in government. It's a way that puts an end to divisive partisan politics and the competition for the "throne" -- a way that enables us all the share the throne, as it were, to establish government that is truly of, by and for the people, rather than of, by and for the rich.

That's what the actual prophecies of all religions predict ... a time when good overcomes evil that masquerades as good.


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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 11:31 PM
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36. I'm so meek...
...I can't even bring myself to post in this thread.





Much.
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J Williams Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 11:57 AM
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39. Good one.
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 08:04 AM
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37. It's survival of the meekest! n/t
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J Williams Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 12:05 PM
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40. Actually, you're right, because...
Edited on Sat Jan-20-07 12:06 PM by J Williams
if it were not for the message from the Spirit of truth, nature would ultimately ensure it. That is, the proud and militant would eventually kill each other off, and the humble and meek would ultimately inherit the earth.

In fact, that's how we are headed now. But the Spirit of truth will, in due time, intervene and bring down the proud and militant who claim and pretend to be religious. The truth will expose them and render them powerless, because their blind flocks will learn the truth and stop following and supporting them.
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 12:19 PM
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41. The meek will inherit the earth...
...but the unmeek will clean up on collecting huge inheritance taxes. :evilgrin:
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J Williams Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 02:01 PM
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42. Another good one. I like your good-natured quips.
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MistressOverdone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 08:30 PM
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43. I haven't gone to the site yet
but I always assumed the inheritance was after the Second Coming?
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J Williams Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 02:10 PM
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44. Here's the thing about that...
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 03:56 PM
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47. Well, it did happen once
The mammals, insignificant little furry critters at the time, inherited the earth from the big, bad dinosaurs. :-)
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J Williams Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 05:34 PM
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48. There you go. Good one.
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