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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 04:15 PM Original message |
Poll question: The Existence of Jesus |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. Seems I read that "Jesus" was (and is) a very common name in some cultures so... |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. "How Did the Name Jesus Originate?" Interesting article about the name. |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yes, he does exist! |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
3. Whether the NT reflects the teachings of just one man |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. No we don't KNOW that but some do speculate. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Excuse me? |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. there is that we know thing again. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. The written record is actually fairly complete |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Yes it was written down |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
4. He exists in many people's minds, if anything. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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Betsy Ross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
5. Jewish Talmud has references to someone who |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
7. Pretty sure that there was an itinerant rural Zealot rabbi named Yehoshua |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. It's not really an exceptional story... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Hate to break it to you, but that site is entirely bogus. |
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Viva_Daddy (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. There are many similarities to the Jesus Story...BUT |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. That's a totally nonsensical claim. |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Thank You -- |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Comparisons of Jesus Christ and pagan gods was not introduced until the 17th century |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 01:57 AM Response to Reply #8 |
29. I examined a few of Graves' claims: the results suggested he was neither careful nor |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 02:27 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. All of these texts rest on a small nest |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 04:03 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. An unfortunate aspect of such axe-grinding is that it tends to eclipse useful insights |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 04:50 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. I'm not sure of your intent |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Graves was "axe-grinding": he started from his conclusion and cherry-picked his evidence |
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Towlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
9. I lean toward Isaac Asimov's view as expressed in Asimov's Guide to the Bible. |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. He was not reluctantly thrown into the roll of the Messiah |
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Towlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I guess you missed the part where I mentioned setting miracles aside in deference to rationalism. |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. No i am talking about the story as it is written. |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
12. It's an important question. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
16. I like the way you put your post and the poll together. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
24. Other. |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-24-09 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
25. Here's an excellent website that discusses the pagan origins of the Christ myth: |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 03:09 AM Response to Original message |
26. It is my belief that we don't really KNOW if he existed, but |
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