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SecularMotion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 03:26 PM
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Religion is an untapped resource for taxation
Because of this decrepit economy and the oncoming depression, the day could be fast approaching when our government, seeking new and increased revenues, will remove the tax-free status from religious facilities.

Religion is a very lucrative business and owns a lot of property and assets like churches, synagogues, temples, mosques, schools, hospitals and housing units, including investment holdings, that all pay little or no tax. This is a gold mine waiting to be mined by cash-strapped and bankrupt government.

http://www.lodinews.com/opinion/letters/article_1f6197df-76f9-5e34-830d-062a5832ab40.html
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 03:30 PM
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1. They can't single out religious organizations.
They would have to tax all non-profits, not just a single class.
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 09:07 PM
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9. Sure they can.
They can't actually single out ALL churches, but they sure as hell can revoke 501c3 status for any churches that engage in politics and break the rules.

(And yes, that's a lot of them.)
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 03:37 PM
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2. The government should re-impose inheritance taxes first.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 03:57 PM
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3. It's a dangerous idea.
In exchange for tax-exemption, religious organizations (in principle) can't participate in politics or government. If taxed, they could use their influence to legally tell congregants how to vote.
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haikugal Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 04:15 PM
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4. We all know how bogus that is...
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 04:15 PM by haikugal
they ae tremendously political...tax them!!
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 04:28 PM
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5. It's the difference between individual churches being political and ALL of them.
Right now, a minority of churches are political. Taxing all of them would encourage all of them to get involved.

The better course of action is to fine the shit out of politically active churches. They're breaking an agreement, so penalize them in a way to discourage it in the future. Merely taxing churches won't solve the problem, nor will it really affect the most egregious of them.
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haikugal Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 06:07 PM
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7. exactly...make them accountable and fine the hell out of them.
These enormous 'prosperity' Dominionist organizations need to be made to toe the mark...enforcement is needed.
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 06:07 PM
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8. The ones that are explicitly politically active,
as in "Vote for Smith" aren't breaking an "agreement." They're breaking the law, and the IRS needs to be on their tails.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 01:08 PM
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10. It's partisanship that's at issue.
Not political activism.

A lot of churches have social missions that take them into politics. Just like a lot of environmental and social welfare groups have missions that take them into politics.

Advocating for issues is fine. Advocating for individuals is a no-no. The dividing line can be hard to determine. Did environmentalists prefer Gore to Bush II? Did they advocate for policies, the support of which would lead voters to prefer Gore? Ah. You see the problem.

Even universities get into the act, as do unions and schools. Why? Because they're staffed by people, and people have political views. When a student organization advocates for an individual is when its status as a tax exempt organization comes into question.
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humblebum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 05:36 PM
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6. If you think they're too powerful now, tax them and you'll be that much closer
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 05:37 PM by humblebum
to a theocracy. But it probably wouldn't survive a challenge of separation of C & S.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 01:12 PM
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11. Schools and hospitals. Hmmm...
You're right. Let's tax them and get rid of them.

Hey, while we're at it we can tax the NAACP, the Nature Conservancy (oh, there's a biggie), Greenpeace, AARP, the NRA, MEChA, CAIR, the League of Women Voters, NOW, and such notorious non-profits as CalTech, MIT, Harvard, and Yale.

Not to mention things like the local cactus and succulent society or the Linguistics Society of America or AMA. And all political donations should be taxable by the organizations that receive them. Government income, after all, and we should stop subsidizing them.
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Humanist_Activist Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:28 PM
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12. Hospitals that turn away rape vicitms who need EC and schools that teach creationism...
Edited on Sat Aug-06-11 01:28 PM by Humanist_Activist
its such a big loss. :eyes:
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