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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 08:20 PM
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Military backs off threat to pull atheist from ceremony
October 19th, 2011
07:16 PM ET

By Jennifer Rizzo, CNN

Washington (CNN) - After almost being pulled from a graduation ceremony for refusal to lower the head during a benediction, a soldier is now allowed to attend but must instead stand at attention.

The 20-year-old private first class, a proclaimed atheist, is graduating from Advanced Individual Training at Fort Jackson in South Carolina on Thursday.

The soldier, who requested that CNN not give a name and gender for fear of repercussions, called the Military Religious Freedom Foundation on Wednesday after taking part in a rehearsal for the graduation.

The soldier told the watchdog group that during the rehearsal, officials ordered the soldiers to bow their heads and clasp their hands during the chaplain's benediction. As an atheist, the soldier refused to do so.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/19/military-backs-off-threat-to-pull-atheist-from-ceremony/
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 08:22 PM
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1. It's good that they backed off
But scary that they ever threatened to pull the soldier in the first place. Just another example of religious privilege and intolerance.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 08:24 PM
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2. Look at this.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 08:33 PM
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4. I've heard all about the atheist chaplains
Anything new to talk about?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 08:54 PM
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7. Yeah. What role can they play in correcting this?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:08 PM
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8. Hopefully they'll put a microscopic dent
in the bigotry faced by LGBT, non-theist and minority religion soldiers. Given the stranglehold evangelical Christians have on the military I don't expect them to accomplish more for very long time.
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fegi052li Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 08:50 PM
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5. I agree. Truly pathetic
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 08:33 PM
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3. Does anyone else have to stand at attention?
If not, it is still religious discrimination.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 08:53 PM
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6. FRom what little is in the article, it's just him/her.
And it is discrimination. It starts in elementary school.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:09 PM
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9. Probably any other atheist or minority religion soldiers
just bow their heads and go along to avoid any of the shit this person has faced.
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Sirveri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 03:07 AM
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12. That's what I did. It's odd to be given the drill order to pray.
Standing there at graduation from boot camp, you really don't want to make waves. Easier to just drop ones head on command.

I wonder what it looks like to see a bunch of troops all lined up and then watch them all drop their heads in unison on command.
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 11:16 PM
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10. Good.
The military has a long way to go on this issue, especially considering that the non-religious are the military's 2nd-largest belief demographic, but at least it's a start.
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DocMac Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 02:55 AM
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11. It would have to be the 2nd largest.
I mean, you either are or you are not. What would be the third?
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 06:35 AM
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13. Specific beliefs vs. non-belief.
Christians are obviously the majority, then non-believers, then all minority faiths after that.
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