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Rocknrule (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 09:28 PM Original message |
Islam: what do you think? |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. RW propaganda (eom) |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. No, it's not inherently violent. |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 09:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
65. No, it's not, at all n/t |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. read the Old Testament |
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4bucksagallon (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 09:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Amen to that!! |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
4. it has a violent history |
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rainy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 09:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. well said! |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 09:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. And a violent present |
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stangoodwin (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 01:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
31. Inherent violence? |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 10:44 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. interesting that you mention cosmology |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 05:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
56. You may find this interesting |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. I think all three of the Abraham religions |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
6. Guess which religions have women getting their father drunk to have sex |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. I find the 6th Sura to be a bit nasty... |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 04:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
47. Thanks to you, |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
9. RW propaganda |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. It's RW propaganda |
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anarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
13. fanaticism of any kind is inherently dangerous |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 04:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
48. Pir Shabda Khan |
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blitzen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
14. bullcrap!!!....show me the 72 Virgins verse in the Qur'an... |
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Onus (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 11:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Put the Quotes in Context |
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blitzen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 11:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Which "context" would you like? |
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Onus (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 11:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I need to check out those two books |
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blitzen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 12:15 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. classical Tafsir, for example al-Tabari, |
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Onus (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 12:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Not Relying on "Interpretation" |
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blitzen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. the question we were debating was 49.13, not 49.15 |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 05:06 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. A Sufi interpretation |
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blitzen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 07:04 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Yes, sounds like Ibn Arabi |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 04:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
49. I think I know what the problem is here |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-18-06 07:21 PM Response to Reply #22 |
60. Put THIS in context, Nazi! |
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Onus (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 11:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Virgins Just Not "72" |
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blitzen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 11:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. here's some "context" for you |
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Onus (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 12:05 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I was agreeing with you |
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blitzen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 12:24 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. okay, sorry, i thought you were supporting the OP's |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 05:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
53. Can you identify the hadith for me, please? |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
52. From Abdullah Yusuf Ali |
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stangoodwin (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 02:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
32. Like your post/s blitzen….. |
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Onus (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 12:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
45. Great Debate |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 04:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
50. Which translation are you using? |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
15. If by inherently... |
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cliss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
16. I don't believe Islam is an inherently violent |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
17. RW propaganda. The Bible, the Talmud, Torah AND the Quaran all... |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 06:47 AM Response to Reply #17 |
63. Hang on a second |
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Onus (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
18. Four and Six |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 11:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I heard an interesting quote on the BBC the other night. |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 05:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
54. Please cite your source |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
19. Islam is not inherently violent |
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progdonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-14-06 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
20. the Koran gives you the virgins in Heaven... |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 01:13 AM Response to Reply #20 |
30. If by "virgin*s*" you mean 72 of them, |
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progdonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 11:33 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. um, was my point unclear? |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 09:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. It appeared you were claiming the Koran stated "72 virgins" |
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catbert836 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
35. In a lot of ways, it is just like Christianity. |
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Onus (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 01:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. The Crusades - Just like the "72 virgins" |
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catbert836 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. You can't be serious. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-18-06 07:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
61. He was a freeper. Now dead. |
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blitzen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. the Crusades, especially the early ones, were a "jobs" |
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Onus (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Comparison |
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catbert836 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 01:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. On the contrary |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 10:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
59. Fundamentalists are the problem in Christianity also |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 05:24 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. Yes, he makes very good points in his book |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-15-06 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
36. I don't think the religion is any more |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
46. You may think you only looked at moderate/progressive sources |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-16-06 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
57. It's a fool's errand to compare the two religions, for there |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-18-06 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
62. I think its as whacky as everything else. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
64. I think it's the most unpleasant of the major world religions. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-21-06 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
66. Same as I think of all religions, Christianity included: not very highly. |
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PsychoDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
67. About those "virgins"... |
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