If Jesus began as in embryo

[DanCa]

Wouldn't that put a damper on the whole virgin birth thing? Or am I thinking too much lately?

[onenote]

1. thinking too much

and not about anything important. Debating people about their religious beliefs isn't going to win elections. Debating them about the capacity for science to take embryos that will be discarded and destroyed and use them to cure diseases, that's what we should focus on.

[DanCa]

7. Truth to power

I just had to vent.

[jody]

2. A related question is from where did Jesus get the Y DNA that made

him male?

Of course such questions are moot since the entire birth of Jesus was a miracle even though it was not discussed in the oldest eye-witness account, the Gospel of Mark.

[htuttle]

6. I thought God showed up one night in Mary's bedroom

...Much like the way Zeus showed up in Alcmena's bedroom and conceived Hercules.

Remarkable similarities there...

[unpossibles]

10. as I stated in another thread

the words "rapture" and "rape" are from the same Latin roots... kinda puts a new twist on things...

[johnaries]

18. Yep, many Greek and Roman Heroes were the offspring

of God's and Human Women. The God's would often disguise themselves as human's and go slumming for human women.

Hmmm, wonder if that's where Matthew got the idea? Matthew was originally written in Greek and not Aramaic or Hebrew, after all......

[Kagemusha]

3. Uh, why the hell would it? Didn't you take biology in high school?

Embryos grow from fertilized eggs. A magically fertilized egg not involving sex would lead to an embryo and then a baby. Why would it put a damper on virgin birth?

And mind you I haven't been religious for over a decade, but this is just too big an opening. I'm bursting your bubble now so you don't get it worse later.

[GreenPartyVoter]

4. Virgin birth or not (and I lean toward not) he was an embryo at some time

Points for trying, tho! *high five*

[DanCa]

9. Hi GPV

I missed you. Sorry for the snark am on a emotional roller coaster today. :hug:

[GreenPartyVoter]

13. I just got diagnosed as bipolar. We can ride the roller coaster together

:hug:

[DanCa]

17. I got meds we can share :D)

:hug:

[GreenPartyVoter]

19. *g*

[TallahasseeGrannie]

31. PM me if you need advice!

Sorry about the dx. It sucks.

[kentuck]

5. I swear your Honor... I never laid a hand on her...

She got pregnant all by herself. I never touched her, I tell you...

[DanCa]

8. Why did I hear Rush's voice in my head

When I read your post. LMAO that was scarey. :hug:

[yellowcanine]

11. If Mary was a virgin, "he" was a "she". The baby Jesus would have been a

clone, meaning 2 X chromosomes and no y chromosome. That, in humans, is a SHE. Always. Now and Forever. Amen. I always did think that Joseph looked happy in those drawings.

[sutz12]

26. But, according to the Da Vinci code....

that would make Mary Magdalene a lesbian.

[truthpusher]

12. The virgin birth thing was fabricated...

...in order to create a God out of Jesus...who wanted to be nothing more than a guy who asked everybody to love one another and to help the poor realize that they are just as good as anybody else...

[GreenPartyVoter]

14. Actually, it was taken from an older religion.

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[DanCa]

16. lol Just to clarify

The people that am angry at and are making fun of in this thread have nothing to do with christianity. John Kerry is a christian and he is absolutely wonderfuly. It's just that the fundie mentality is not only hypocrital it's staggering in it's arrogance.

[deaniac21]

20. I agree he is wonderfuly. I don't like to make fun of smart christians.

[DanCa]

21. Coolio - It's just that thirty two percent

That damn thirty two percent that taught me how to hate.
You know the feeling right? :hug:

[SPKrazy]

29. Too Late For That Deaniac

you already called Christians "stupid"

[SPKrazy]

28. Wow, That's A Broad Brush

you could have said stupid literalist christians

but instead you said stupid Christians

[Arugula Latte]

22. Mary got knocked up. "Uh -- the father was God! That's it!"

Fast thinking, Mary! And people have bought this silly rubbish for centuries! Good work!

[TallahasseeGrannie]

32. Your rubbish

my sacred truth. Viva la difference!

[parkia00]

23. If Mary really did that....

That means she produced asexually. That means she has both male and female sexual organs. That means.... Oh My GOD!!!!

[Goblinmonger]

24. JESUS IS CARTMAN!!!!

Sorry. Had to be said.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

33. Nah

if he were Jesus he wouldn't sing Oh Holy Night in bed. It would be egocentric. But...

hmmmm

[boolean]

25. Um....WHAT?!

Who says you need sex to get an embryo? Ever hear of a turkey baster? :P

[SPKrazy]

27. Maybe He Was In Vitro

therefore a virgin birth

no, I think the virgin birth story is one developed by early Christians to show the man Jesus' divine nature.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

30. I always imagine she was

kind of..um...fertilized.