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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:31 AM
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I'm calling out Seattle Sonics fans (some of them)
I know many of you, particularly those of you who will be reading this, are classy.

But at tonight's game, a large proportion of the fans at Key Arena were cheering when Tim Duncan went down with an apparent injury. They then booed when he got up and walked it off.

Granted a few of the fans there behaved well. But that booing was one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen in sports. Just horrible.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:33 AM
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1. I am not a sports fan but I just had a vision of Bush in the Arena
standing up and giving the injured player a thumbs down, at which point a thousand drunken fans ran onto the court with baseball bats and beat the poor soul to death. Just a weird thought.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:34 AM
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2. They were not booing the fact that he was hurt.
Edited on Fri May-20-05 01:34 AM by Mojambo
They were booing the fact that San Antonio was NOT charged the 20 second timeout that they should have been charged when Duncan delayed the game.



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Spurlurker Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:41 AM
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3. In the words of the Seattle fans on national TV...
"Bull shit - bull shit - bull shit"


Those scum bags were cheering when Duncan was on the ground holding his ankle and started booing when he got up 20 seconds later. They weren't booing a non call, they were CHEERING a player getting hurt.

BTW, one of the most upstanding and respectable players in the entire league.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:44 AM
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4. Welcome, Spurlurker
How about that shot where Fortson tried to take Manu's head off?

Seattle's bigs are nothing but thugs. Fortson shouldn't even be in the league at this point.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:46 AM
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5. What can I say, I think you're wrong.
I can't speak for everyone there (by the way neither can you, although you seem quite content to do so) but the booing when he walked down court was because the Spurs were not charged the timeout that they were supposed to be charged BY RULE.

When you're fouled you are required to get up and shoot free throws IMMEDIATELY. If the player cannot then he must leave the game or a time out MUST be charged.

In a close game that timeout could have mattered and the fans knew it.

Duncan is a great player and very respectable, but that's kind of irrelevant. People shouldn't cheer when ANY player goes down.

Whatever though. You seem quite passionate about your opinion so I could care less to change it.
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Spurlurker Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:48 AM
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6. Forget the booing....
Edited on Fri May-20-05 01:51 AM by Spurlurker
What were they cheering for while he was on the ground holding his ankle?

You can spin the booing however you want. But I have a hard time believing that the same fans that chant "bull shit" on three different occasions and cheer when a player gets injured were booing a technicality of the rules and not that the player who's injury they were just cheering gets up.

Those are some scum bag fans and they were there in large numbers.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:51 AM
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7. I'm not spinning anything
Edited on Fri May-20-05 01:52 AM by Mojambo
That's how it was. Do you dispute that the rule was not called how it should have been?

I couldn't tell you what they were cheering about, and neither can you.

Feel free to speculate however, I don't care.

I do agree that Fortson's flagrant was uncalled for. He's not my favorite player.

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Spurlurker Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:54 AM
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9. Hilarious.
You can't tell what they were cheering for? The announcers for both broadcasts I had access to knew what they were cheering for. They were called out as the idiots they are on ESPN.

I may have seen worse fans before but I don't remember when.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:52 AM
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8. But the delay
was because a Sonics player was bleeding and had to be patched up. Maybe Seattle should have been charged the timeout, instead?

Regardless, I just watched it again. Cheers while he was on the floor, writhing in pain. That's bad enough.

But the instant he got up and started walking, the boos began.

BTW, San Antonio only took three full time outs, no 20-second timeouts in the second half. So the time out situation wasn't that critical.

You don't know that the fans were thinking time outs, and you just said you couldn't speak for the fans, but then you stated as fact why the fans were booing. Oops.

Regardless of the booing, the cheering when he was on the floor in pain was disgusting.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 02:00 AM
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11. I was positing that the fans in fact did have another reason to be booing
Aside from Duncan being injured.

The assertion that they were booing after he got up because he was hurt could be rebutted by the fact that the officials missed a call.

That was my point. I should not have said that that was WHY the fans were booing, but it does provide an entirely plausible explanation. If you don't buy it, so be it.

The Sonic announcers were howling about it, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that the fans picked up on it.

Not that big of deal to me either way.

Good luck against the Suns/Mavs.

Could I ask if you believe the same thing (cheering an injury) would not have happened in any number of other arenas in the NBA? I find it hard to believe with the wide range of fans that attend games everywhere that it wouldn't have. Not to excuse the behavior.

I will stand by my comments about the booing after he got up however.


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Spurlurker Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 02:07 AM
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14. Point taken...
"That was my point. I should not have said that that was WHY the fans were booing, but it does provide an entirely plausible explanation. If you don't buy it, so be it."

Being generous to the fans, I'd put it at...

70% chance of booing because Duncan got up
30% chance of booing because all of the fans that were just cheering that Duncan got hurt and chant "Bull Shit" repeatedly all suddenly realize at the exact second that Duncan gets up that San Antonio should have to burn a 20 second time out

One makes sense, the other you have to take some logical leaps of homerist faith to accept.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:51 PM
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23. To be honest
I was rooting for the Sonics--as a Blazer fan--and the booing started before he even got up. The amount of time they gave Duncan to get it together was kinda sketchy.

Great game to watch though. And as good as he is--and he is--all I can say is Danny Ainge ain't got nuthin' on Manu Ginobli.

Bring on the draft! I wanna see how the Fizzlers screw up their lottery pick.
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Spurlurker Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 12:43 AM
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24. Sketchy?
How do you tell a guy writhing in pain he needs to suck it up and deal with it?
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 03:15 AM
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25. Simple
A good ref would go up after the time alloted by the rules expired and say, "Look, you have to line up to shoot, or you have to sub out."

I'm not talking about when he was on the ground. I'm talking about when he was pacing back and forth. Maybe there was some other delay on the sidelines. The cameras didn't show much. Who knows? I wasn't there. Were you?

Sheesh.
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Spurlurker Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 10:41 AM
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26. I wasn't there but I stayed a Holiday Inn Express last night...
I wasn't there but I have this thing called television. The reason for the delay was a bleeding Sonics player. I believe it was Jerome James but it could have been one of the other Sonics bigs. They had to take him off the court before they could begin play again.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 01:23 PM
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27. The cameras did show a delay
a Sonics player was bleeding, and had to be treated on the sidelines. So the Sonics should have been charged with a TO, right?
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 06:19 PM
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28. Hey, I can tell you this
When Radmonavic went down, the Sonics did have to burn a time out while he was "writhing on the floor in pain" just so they could get him out. And if that the Jerome James incident you're referring to, I recall it happening earlier, but even so, he had to sit out. When a player is bleeding, they HAVE to sub out.

Geez, I agreed about the booing. That dry San Antone weather sure creates some thin skin. Double sheesh.
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Spurlurker Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 06:51 PM
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29. The bleeding...
...happened at the same time as the Duncan ankle thing. (tivo)

You got jumped on because you are about the only person I've seen defending the scum bag Seattle fans.
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Spurlurker Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:59 AM
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10. "Bull Shit"
The NBA, TNT, and ESPN need to figure something out for when they have games in stadiums full of scum bags chanting "Bull Shit". That has no place on a broadcast like this.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 02:01 AM
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12. Oh please!
That happens everywhere and you know it.
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Spurlurker Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 02:03 AM
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13. No.
No, it doesn't.

You're defending fans who cheer Tim Duncan writhing on the ground in pain and now you are claiming that fans cheer "bull shit" everywhere? Have you considered that maybe your standards of decency have been lowered?
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:20 PM
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17. to be fair
the Sonics fans don't have a lot of playoff experience. :rofl:
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:25 AM
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15. Perhaps...
it was residue from three nights of listening to ugly Yankee fans doing the same type of stuff over at Safeco.

;)

Hopefully this is not a trend in northwest sports fandom.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:02 AM
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16. unbelieveable
is there anything you don't blame on the Yankees. I'd like to know. The actions of the Seattle fans in regards to Duncan were reprehensible and you find a way to blame it on Yankees fans. Amazing.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:01 PM
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18. LOL! You just made my point.
Edited on Fri May-20-05 01:06 PM by HuckleB
I know there are Yankee fans who have sense of humor, and who can enjoy some good back and forth. Alas, they were few and far between at Safeco this week, and they certainly seem to be few and far between here at DU.

Thanks for the giggle, by the way. I couldn't have dreamed of getting a better response.

:D
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 02:32 PM
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19. whatever
you're snide attitude is beyond ridiculous. Hiding behind a smilie doesn't change your negativism. And it doesn't cover up for the behavior of your fellow Seattle fans. Lots of bitterness from Seattle always losing to the Yankees. Even in their best season.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 03:07 PM
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20. LOL! Again! LOL! Make it stop! Please! You're killing me! LOL!!!
Edited on Fri May-20-05 03:42 PM by HuckleB
B-)

That's even more hilarious! I can't possibly be laughing. I must be "hiding" behind a smile. (Rolling eyes while laughing some more.) I've got all kinds of smiles, and, believe me, every one of them is genuine.

:P

Dude. Read my original post. It's in good humor. But, alas, humor doesn't fit your preconceived profile, where everybody and their dog are "haters." Further, I'm not a Sonics fan (another assumption gone - - darn). I was just having fun after a week where Yankee fans were poorly represented at Safeco by sourpusses with attitudes that match your posts. Mariners fans, in general, know how to lose with grace. Too bad there appear to be far too many Yankees fans who don't even know how to win with grace. As I've noted before, I know it's not all Yankee fans, but the sourpusses sure were over-represented at Safeco this week, and they sure 'nuff are 'round here most of the time.

Care to prove my point again! :)

:bounce: B-)
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 06:05 PM
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21. yeah those Seattle fans
sure were classy last night. You need to stop your rationalizing.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 06:17 PM
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22. In other words...
Edited on Fri May-20-05 06:18 PM by HuckleB
you've got no response. Nevermind a sense of humor.

LOL!

:D
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