Hey JoPa...when someone reports a rape of a 10 year old boy---

[trumad]

You call the police, not report it to the Athletic Director! AND---while the Athletic Director was lying his ass off about being told about the incident---errr by you....., where were you?

HARRISBURG, Pa. -- Penn State athletic director Tim Curley and another school administrator were charged Saturday with perjury and failure to report in an investigation into allegations that former football defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky sexually abused eight young men, state prosecutors said.

The attorney general's office said Sandusky, 67, of State College, was arrested Saturday. Curley, 57, and Penn State vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz, 62, both of Boalsburg, were expected to turn themselves in Monday in Harrisburg, according to the attorney general's office. Schultz's position includes oversight of the university's police department.

Sandusky, closely identified with the school's reputation as a defensive powerhouse and a program that produced top-quality linebackers, retired in 1999. Longtime head coach Joe Paterno, who has more victories than any coach in the history of Division I football, was not charged, authorities said. When Paterno first learned of one report of abuse he immediately reported it to Curley, prosecutors said.

<snip>
Kelly said that seven years before that incident, in 2002, a graduate assistant saw Sandusky sexually assault a naked boy, estimated to be about 10 years old, in the locker room of the Lasch Football Building on the Penn State campus. The grad student and his father reported the incident to Paterno, who immediately told Curley, prosecutors said.

Curley and Schultz met with the graduate assistant about a week and a half later, Kelly said.

"Despite a powerful eyewitness statement about the sexual assault of a child, this incident was not reported to any law enforcement or child protective agency, as required by Pennsylvania law," Kelly said. "Additionally, there is no indication that anyone from the university ever attempted to learn the identity of the child ... or made any follow-up effort to obtain more information from the person who witnessed the attack."

<snip>
The jury said Curley lied when he testified repeatedly that he was never told Sandusky had engaged in sexual misconduct with a child, Kelly said, adding that portions of Schultz's testimony also were not deemed credible by the jury.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/11/05/penn-state-ex-coach-others-charged-in-child-sex-case/#ixzz1cqq3bDFA

[Kingofalldems]

1. Paterno should be charged also---horrible

Sandusky was a Colt I believe.

[fishwax]

3. I think that was a different Sandusky (Alex)

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SandAl20.htm

[Kingofalldems]

5. Right. I stand corrected.

[Auggie]

7. I agree

Paterno should be charged

[RagAss]

2. This is the sickest fucking thing I ever heard of relating to any sports team.

[MrSlayer]

10. How about the Maple Leaf Gardens child sex scandal?

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=M1ARTM0011176

Pretty sick shit there too. Went on for years.

[fishwax]

4. wtf!

:wtf: :grr:

[Botany]

6. Time to go Joe

When the AD did nothing it was your job to go to the police and the D.A.. Any man raping a 10 year old boy needed to be arrested and
put in jail right after the crime happened and Joe your silence on the crime allowed more little kids to become victims.

Penn State should do the right thing and clean house right now.

[madinmaryland]

8. If it's tru, then it is totally sickening. Though I also hate the Nancy Grace types,

who have someone convicted to life in prison before all of the facts have come out and they have been convicted by a jury of their peers.

[trumad]

11. it sounds very believable.

[madinmaryland]

12. You're right that it "sounds" very believable. So did the story about

the Duke Lacrosse team.

[trumad]

16. oh horseshit

Not even close as an example.

[madinmaryland]

18. Dude. If the guy did what is alleged, then he deserves to rot in jail.

But I hate the fucking Nancy Grace knee-fucking-jerk reactions, before we know everything. Happens every fucking time. Reminds me of freeperville at times.

[Condem]

9. What a sorry,sordid tale. Time to clean house.

But that speaks nothing to these young boys. A lot more to come out here.

[bluedigger]

13. I'm not going to throw JoePa to the wolves on this one.

And I don't even like JoePa.

[tishaLA]

14. ITA. He reported it to his boss, who should have handled it

But appears to have thought that lying and covering up was the greater part of valor. Paterno seems to have believed the appropriate action for him to take was to report what he was told about, to his boss, a very common and appropriate step in any workplace. Curley, as Paterno's direct supervisor, should have then made the decision to either report it to his boss, University President Spainer, or to the police. It appears he did neither.

That said, if this means the end of Paterno at PSU, it's probably a good thing.

[trumad]

15. really.....

So if you found out an adult man was raping some kid you'd go to your boss instead of calling police.

Hell..even the grad student and his Dad are at fault.

This is a huge scandal for Pa.

[caraher]

20. Absolutely

It's just like what the Catholic Church did - keep it in the organization. Forget that - this is a crime and you report a crime to the police, not your boss!

[bluedigger]

17. It is a Tragedy of Greek proportions.

Joe was betrayed by his anointed successor, and the program he treasured more than anything was threatened with calamity. I can imagine that after he did his duty and informed his superiors, that it was easy to rationalize the banishment as punishment enough, compared to the threat to his team that publicity would entail.

If this does lead to his demise, it will probably hasten his end as well. He must be in anguish over this.:shrug:

[fishwax]

21. Curley is his supervisor in name only

I think it was wrong not to follow through with the police. He must have been aware that they hadn't contacted the authorities, or at least should have wondered why no authorities ever followed up on such an inquiry by wanting to talk to Paterno and the GA. Especially since he probably was aware that the same guy had been investigated for a similar issue in 1998. If the GA, as has been reported, was actually Mike McQueary, who is currently on the staff at PSU, one also has to wonder why he didn't go to the police, and how one could stay on the staff knowing that, even when he reported seeing a former coach raping a 10-year-old in the locker room, the people in charge didn't think it worth contacting the police.

[yellowcanine]

31. Only problem with that reasoning is this was not "any workplace"

This was Penn State football and Joe Paterno IS Penn State football. If he reports to his superior and he does nothing, he calls law enforcement himself. Because his superior has just behaved inappropriately as well and that must be reported. AT the least he must notify the Penn State legal office. I work for a university. I don't know how it works at Penn State but if we become aware of any kind of inappropriate sexual behavior toward a minor involving university employees, students, property, etc. we are required to notify the university legal office as well as reporting to our superiors. I can't believe Penn State doesn't have a similar requirement.

[brentspeak]

19. And that incident followed the 1998 incident

Sandusky was investigated in 1998 after a victim's mother notified university police. Sandusky was cleared for lack of evidence, but Paterno must have been aware of the 1998 allegations when he was confronted with the 2002 allegations.

[Charlemagne]

22. I held JoPa as a god

Im an old time big ten lover....his style fits the bill.

I just hope that this is a mistake and that he had nothing to do with a coverup. What a terrible incident. If true, he has to step down and face any charges.

[fishwax]

23. apparently at the AG's press conference today she was asked about Joe seeing Sandusky with a child

at a Penn State practice in 2007. The reporter said that Sandusky had brought a kid from Second Mile to a Penn State function (I think it was a practice) and Mike McQueary and JP must have seen him there. Did they, knowing what they know, have an obligation to report that. The AG responded along the lines of "That's an interesting point and one that may need to be dealt with somewhere down the line."

I don't know what that means, exactly, but it looks like a lot more information could come out about this situation in the days and weeks to come.

[Botany]

24. Bottom Line

Joe Pa & the PSU's administration lack of action in this case allowed more little boys to become victims of a
serial child molester. They allowed this awful stuff to go on for over a decade after it should have been stopped.

This was not a case for the A.D. but for the county D.A..

[Condem]

25. Check out this story from 2005....

....http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_365327.html#ixzz1d3n3WyVi

[Condem]

26. and this...

...http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/7/2545027/-jerry-sandusky-ray-gricar-prosecutor-1998-penn-state-missing

[RagAss]

27. This is getting really fucking weird !

[Capt. America]

28. Say it ain't so Joe. Time for you to go old man.

[Ganja Ninja]

29. It's despicable.

There is no excuse for not calling the police when this creep was discovered molesting a 10 year old boy in the showers. JoPa should resign or be fired before he ever sets foot on another football field. If I were playing for Penn State I would walk off the field and refuse to play until JoPa was gone.

[yellowcanine]

30. I am sick, outraged and sad about this. Joe has got to go. Right now.

He is Penn State football. Heck, he IS Penn State. This happened on his watch and he is hiding behind others. Dang, when he saw that nothing was being done about Sandusky it was his responsibility to speak out. Resign or threaten to resign if that is what it took. Obviously that did not happen. Sorry Joe, but you did not "do what you were supposed to do" as you said. Not even in a narrow sense.

I am a Penn State grad and for the first time ever I wish it weren't so.

[fishwax]

32. another alleged victim has come forward after news of the indictment

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/state_police_man_comes_forward.html

I wonder how many more.

[ScreamingMeemie]

33. Press conference has been cancelled.

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/paterno-cancels-news-conference-amid-scandal-14905407

[hughee99]

34. He picked up the phone and asked for Klondike-5838

but there was no operator on the other end so his call wasn't connected.