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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 03:04 PM
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Cons lie about Hate Crimes Bill. Don't know what sexual orientation is
Edited on Wed May-06-09 03:05 PM by booley
Yeah I know, what a shock. But the sheer ignorance and how this ignorance manages to spread should be recognized I think.

It started when I went to another forum...

There is a bill moving in the Congress -- its identification is HR 1913. Generally , it adds 30 behaviors, conduct or sexual preference that will be "protected" under Hate Crimes bill.

http://politicalriffraff.yuku.com/topic/2895

Now that was news to me. 30 behaviors being added? I had only heard about one category, sexual orientation, being added. That certainly sounded "interesting" and so when the post gave a link to the "bill Language" I clicked it.

I should have been suspicious when that link was to congress.org and not .gov. Instead of a copy of the bill what I got was..


The Hate Crime law, HR-1913, will make 30 sexual orientations federally-protected. The American Psychiatric Association (APA) has published 30 such sexual orientations that, because of Congress's refusal to define "sexual orientation," will be protected under this legislation. These 30 orientations are listed in the APA's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV), .....Those 30 sexual orientations include behaviors that are felonies or misdemeanors in most states. Among those sexual orientations being protected by HR-1913 are these: Apotemnophilia - sexual arousal associated with the stump(s) of an Amputee Asphyxophilia - sexual gratification derived from activities that involve oxygen deprivation through hanging, strangulation, or other means Autogynephilia - the sexual arousal of a man by his own perception of himself as a woman or dressed as a woman. Bisexual - the capacity to feel erotic attraction toward, or to engage in sexual interaction with, both males and females Coprophilia - sexual arousal associated with feces Exhibitionism - the act of exposing one’s genitals to an unwilling observer to obtain sexual gratification Fetishism/Sexual Fetishism - obtaining sexual excitement primarily or exclusively from an inanimate object or a particular part of the body Frotteurism - approaching an unknown woman from the rear and pressing or rubbing the penis against her buttocks ....


http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/alert/?alertid=13234266&content_dir=ua_congressorg

And the list goes on. While they list Bisexuality, Homosexuality and Heterosexuality (which is described as "the universal norm of sexuality", not language the APA uses)., Nothing else is considered a sexual ORIENTATION. I mean, isn't how these guys described Frotteurism by definition heterosexual? (Guy rubbing against a women sounds pretty hetero to me) They are at best practices or fetishes. Nor are orientations listed in the DSM to my knowledge and haven't been for at least 30 years since they are not classified as illnesses.

A Google search came up with this definition from the APA as to what a sexual orientation is.


Sexual orientation refers to an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions to men, women, or both sexes. Sexual orientation also refers to a person’s sense of identity based on those attractions, related behaviors, and membership in a community of others who share those attractions.


http://www.apa.org/topics/sorientation.html#whatis

I could find nothing to indicate the APA defined sexual orientation beyond the gender that a person may feel attracted too.

So is it just me or are cons just fucking LYING when they claim pedophiles and shit eaters will get "special protections"? Yeah I know, rhetorical question at this point. Though if I got anything wrong feel free to correct me. But I think this does show how the lies of cons spread. I have already seen a congress person use this same bunch of lies.

Here btw is the actual language of the bill...

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1913

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Stellabella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 03:18 PM
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1. Wow, the right wing sure is ... interested in some strange acts.
Looks like they have lots of fetishes they are desperately trying to suppress. I mean, 'sexual arousal associated with feces'????

They are just strange, strange people.

And of course they're lying. That's what they do!
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 03:29 PM
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2. Looks like someone has been watching too much Bruce LaBruce. n/t
Edited on Wed May-06-09 03:30 PM by JackBeck
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 03:33 PM
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3. All they do is lie
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 03:35 PM
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4. Authors likely know
Edited on Wed May-06-09 03:37 PM by One_Life_To_Give
They are intenionally twisting the facts to generate an emotional response in their readers.

They might of said in 1787
1st Ammendment assault on Children. This devilish proposal allows Pedophiles and 547 other sexual freaks to carry out their perversions in public. Threatening your children walking by on their way to the Lords house of Worship.

2nd Ammendment Assures that all the Perverts/Freaks/Pedophiles and 247 other types of devil worshippers have cannon, gun and powder.



And we thought the Press of 1916 was yellow.

on edit; What I would really like to know is this b eing done to line their own pockets or to sanctify their hatred.

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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 05:55 PM
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5. Yep, they will say anything. This is pretty nutty even for them, though. nt
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