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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 01:17 PM
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Does the Roman Catholic Church have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy?
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 01:17 PM by Boojatta
Suppose that a man discloses that he is gay, but also discloses that he is and has always been chaste. Would that eliminate the possibility that he could become a Roman Catholic priest? Would it not eliminate the possibility, but simply make it somewhat less likely that he could obtain employment as a Roman Catholic priest?

As far as I know, a woman is automatically excluded, so I have no reason to ask about a woman who discloses that she is a lesbian. I suppose that student priests have to pass a visual inspection or something. Thus, a woman wearing a disguise as a man might be able to work undercover as a Roman Catholic priest, unless the qualification procedure actually involves visual inspection of the genitals.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 01:19 PM
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1. The act of homosexual sex is the sin
Not homosexual feelings. Technically. Just repeating Church doctrine here, not mine.

Yes a homosexual can be a Catholic priest. All that is required is abstinence.

Although that has gotten to be a less friendly policy in recent years.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 01:21 PM
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2. Our local Bishop, Robert Lynch, was in the papers for sexual harassment and he's still Bishop
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 01:24 PM
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3. they used to. i believe they now prohibit gay clergy
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 02:37 PM
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4. you are right
no Gay men permitted to join a seminary. They won't defrock a celebatr Gay priest, however, I believe
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 03:11 PM
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5. Do priests tell their congregation that any gay men in the audience
should listen carefully to the sermons because the sermons are coming from someone who has a religious authority higher than any gay men in the audience could ever have?

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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 03:14 PM
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6. I've never heard of anyone talk directly to the Gays
but I left years ago and never went back
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Doc Martin Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 03:25 PM
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7. Does Pope Ratzinger (a/k/a Benedict) Set Off Your Gaydar?
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 03:26 PM by Doc Martin
It is so obvious yet no one talks about it. While I can't answer the question re whether Ratzinger is homosexual, I can say my gaydar goes off the charts every time I see him.

Is his obsession with homosexuality a matter of projecting self hatred on to others?
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Meeker Morgan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 06:12 PM
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8. Ratzi the Nazi?
He sets off my creep-dar.
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Doc Martin Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:47 PM
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9. Papa Ratz
Creepdar, hmmm... absolutely.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:57 AM
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11. Not especially, but I have never seen any footage; often, it's only seeing someone in action
that my gaydar goes off, due to a gesture or manner of walking. (Which, by the way, doesn't mean at all that my gaydar is accurate.)

If I were German or if I lived in Italy or even if I just followed his shit closely, perhaps I'd have a better opinion.

But with Ratzinger, it's sort of like that book, "Everything I Ever Needed to Know About Ratzinger, I Knew When I Found Out He Had Been A Member of the Hitler Youth." I think that was the beginning of my departure from the RCC.
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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 03:53 PM
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12. Oh honey...
check out the red Prada loafers.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 04:10 PM
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13. More like ruby slippers.
n/t
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 08:31 PM
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10. It's very much don't ask , don't tell. Supposedly, all the gays were
removed from American seminaries last year. Of course, that means everyone who is openly gay was removed.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:08 AM
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14. When you say "very much", do you mean specifically the "don't tell" part?
Are seminary authorities conscientiously pursuing a "don't ask" policy? Asking would seem to be associated with the initial steps in a removal policy.

Civilians who were citizens of Denmark during WWII are considered to be very lucky if they were Jewish because, although Denmark became a zone with no Jews, the removal was to various destinations on this planet Earth rather than to the hereafter. However, it wouldn't make much sense to say that in Denmark there was very much a "don't ask, don't tell" policy with respect to whether or not a Danish citizen was likely to be classified by Hitler's helpers as "Jewish."

A student union of seminary students who wanted to imitate the Danish king's example (he wore a yellow star) could quit the seminary en masse whenever alleged gay orientation is the basis for removal of a seminary student.
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