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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 04:51 PM
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Bigots present "Defender of Marriage" awards to Anti-gay "Democrats"
From the bigoted Nazi scum at Alliance "for" Marriage:

HOUSE DEMOCRATS PRESENTED 'DEFENDER OF MARRIAGE' AWARD


Alliance for Marriage Presents 'Defender' Awards to Democratic Members of the House in Recognition of
Their Courage and Moral Conviction in Support of Marriage


Rep. Bishop


Rep. McIntyre


WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The Alliance for Marriage (AFM), who drafted the Marriage Protection Amendment (MPA) before Congress, honored Democratic Congressmen Sanford Bishop, Jr. (GA) and Mike McIntyre (NC) today with the group's 'Defender of Marriage' Award.

The Award was presented in recognition of their "courage and moral conviction" in support of the Marriage Protection Amendment at a press conference joined by Roy Innis of the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) and Reverend Sam Rodriguez of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference (NHCLC).

Sam Rodriguez and Roy Innis



"Each of these Congressmen exemplify courage and moral conviction by defending the values of the American people as embodied in AFM's Marriage Amendment," said Matt Daniels, president of the Alliance for Marriage. "Together, they stand with the vast majority of Americans -- of every race, color and creed -- who want our laws to send a positive message to children about marriage, family and their future."

"The constitutional problem created by almost a decade of activist lawsuits to destroy our marriage laws demands a constitutional fix," Daniels added. "AFM's Marriage Amendment protects the common sense view of marriage shared by the vast majority of Americans of every race, color and creed."

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 04:55 PM
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1. This is all politics to divide Dems not any sincere display of gratitude.
The political animals behind this "Alliance" would throw any of these Dem under the bus at a drop of a hat.

Did it matter to the GOPs that David Bonior was pro-life? Nope. They wanted him OUT of the House - PERIOD!
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 12:18 AM
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4. So you're not going to address the fact that these dirtbags APPEARED
and ACCEPTED the awards?

Of course not, what was I thinking.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 02:33 AM
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6. Of course he/she won't.
After all they are under the belief that the division in the party is caused by outside influence! :eyes:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:26 AM
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8. They are misguided - I'm not excusing them. I'm pointing to how they're
being used.

Why attack that observation?
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:37 AM
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10. No one is being "used" when they appear at an awards ceremony
Edited on Wed Jul-19-06 09:45 AM by Harvey Korman
and accept an award for being HATEFUL. No one is being "used" when they try to gather votes from the other side's campaign of bigotry. No one is being used, except, maybe, the GLBT Dems who just got kicked in the stomach by the people who "represent" them.

Let's grow up and get real.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:49 AM
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11. The ceremony itself was being used as a tool, and the Dem pols are being
complete dumbasses for not recognizing it.

Attack someone who disagrees with you, not someone pointing out a separate aspect re the GOPs intentions with the ceremony.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 03:50 PM
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19. I'm afraid I have to agree with BLM here
It is ALSO a political stunt, most definitely.

Oh well, he who lives by hating gays dies by the same sword. Their gay friends and relatives are probably disinfecting right now, except Mary Cheney who is probably just adding some more inane ranting drivel to her memoire.

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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 02:31 AM
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5. Oh please!
The only ones responsible for the division with in the Dem voting base is the Democratic Reps themselves. Had they decided to not turn away from a party platform with the belief that by not supporting my partners right to fucking marry me is the way to winning a fundie vote, there wouldn't be any division.



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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:29 AM
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9. I'm talking about the AWARD CEREMONY - it's being used to further a
divide and dumbass politicians are falling for it.

Thanks for judging and attacking me because you assumed I was excusing it.
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jackpan1260 Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 05:19 PM
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2. Many Democratic voters don't support gay marriage
So it shouldn't be a surprise when some Democratic politicians don't support it. Gay marriage bans have been passed in every state they have been put on the ballot, some states that voted for Kerry. That doesn't make it ok, but it just means that we have an uphill battle. The Republicans are commited to fighting against us every step of the way, and even moderates like Guiliani throw their support to wingnuts like Santorum and Bush. That is one of the reasons that I will probably never vote for a Republican, even a moderate one.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 12:12 AM
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3. Explain this to me like I'm five years old
How does preventing an entire group of committed adults from marrying protect marriage? I've been pondering that for years and I still don't get it. :shrug:
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 02:35 AM
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7. Buffy...
...I don't get it either. They way they think one would have to begin thinking we were responsible for the high divorce rate as well. Their thinking is simply ridiculous.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:13 AM
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13. It makes no sense but logical sense is not what they're ...
... after.

Seems to me, being against gay marriage is the 21st century version of being against gay *rights*. Instead of complaining that nondiscrimination laws conferred 'special rights' on sexual minorities ( as they were doing ten years ago, and to a degree are still doing) this issue has become their lightening rod.

It's not logical ; it's not rational. It taps into deep subconscious reservoirs of anxiety about homosexuality. It's
a ( self-defeating)way ( i.e. obsessing about keeping marriage from gays) to manage one's insecurities and anxieties.

The political forces of darkness, are forever ready to tap into that reservoir for all it's worth.

But it helps to keep asking your question over and over again.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:46 PM
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17. Oh, but they're after gay rights too
Banning gay marriage is only the tip of the iceberg. Killing off gay rights, with legal protections against discrimination being the first on the chopping block, are the next thing on the horizon.

Read The Hijacking of Jesus:How the Religious Right Promotes Prejudice and Hate by Dan Wakefield. It is enlightening and scary.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 10:25 AM
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12. It's sad to see people like Roy Innis associating with these bigots.
I will never understand why some African-Americans and Hispanics are allying themselves with these homophobes.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:17 AM
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14. It may be sad but don't be surprised. Innis is a ....
veteran RW hack.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 02:28 PM
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15. It's disgusting.
I'll never understand why groups who have been unfairly shoved to the side because they don't fit the mainstream ideals then turn around and do exactly what they hated to other groups.

I celebrate my culture, but when I see how conservative many Hispanics are, I am deeply ashamed.
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Siyahamba Donating Member (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 03:33 PM
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16. A big problem is there aren't many non-white GLBT role models.
In the media, in ads, at rallies, a disproportionately large number of whites have been featured. Therefore, non-whites are less likely to see or hear GLBT people from their community, and are less likely to think that someone in their own community may be GLBT.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 03:46 PM
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18. because they're not really "leaders"
and they don't really believe in equality.

The only problem is that not a damn thing they do is going to change anything. Some of the "children" they're sending this message to are children of gay parents, or siblings or gay themselves, or friends of gays, and they are going to look back on this "message" with revulsion and sadness.

In the meanwhile, we will still be living together, still be raising children, still be gay, and there isn't a damn thing in the universe these bigots can do about any of it, other than inconvenience us.

They're losers, and they've already lost.
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