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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 01:27 PM
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(Meet) The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics
Edited on Fri Jul-15-11 01:31 PM by HuckleB
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/the-international-network-of-cholesterol-skeptics/

"There is an organization that calls itself The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics (THINCS). Its members “thinc” they are smarter than the average doctor. They “thinc” that cholesterol has nothing to do with cardiovascular disease and that we have been deluded into waging a “cholesterol campaign” for which the scientific evidence is non-existent. They say, “What we all oppose is that animal fat and high cholesterol play a role.” I find even the wording of this statement problematical: one does not usually hear scientists “opposing” matters of fact or non-fact. They go on to say, “The aim with this website is to inform our colleagues and the public that this idea is not supported by scientific evidence; in fact, for many years a huge number of scientific studies have directly contradicted it.”

They tell us about those contradicting studies; but they don’t tell us about the flaws in those studies, they misrepresent some of the results, and they don’t tell us about the many good studies that support the cholesterol/heart link. The issue is a complex one, and it is easy to find studies to support any claim. Good science is about weighing all the evidence pro and con before reaching a conclusion. As far as I can see, these folks have cherry-picked the literature to support an agenda. They seem to have a vendetta against statin drugs in particular.

The website solicits complaints of adverse effects from statin drugs. It features a petition to the WHO that you can sign requesting an investigation of statin side effects. It alleges that lowering cholesterol endangers the elderly. It provides “what the medical journals and newspapers won’t let you hear” – letters and papers that have been rejected for publication. It lists books, published papers and talks by its members. It solicits financial contributions to the cause.

This movement seems to have started with Uffe Ravnskov’s book The Cholesterol Myths, published in Swedish in 1991 and in English in 2000. That book has been severely criticized, for instance in The Skeptic’s Dictionary , where Bob Carroll points out some of the distortions and deceptive techniques found in the cholesterol skeptics’ arguments. A typical claim: “Cholesterol is highly protective against cancer, infection and atherosclerosis” and “high TC and LDL levels are beneficial at all ages.” These statements are not only false, they are potentially dangerous to the health of those who believe them.

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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 01:45 PM
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1. One wonders where they get their funding.
Let me guess - the Dairy Council, the Egg Council, the Beef Council, and Americans for Prosperity.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 01:52 PM
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2. They probably have a really, really big
DONATE! button that says,

"For More Woo, Click Here!"
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 01:57 PM
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3. +1
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 05:00 PM
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4. HA! Their website even whines about their LTEs that aren't published!
www.thincs.org

Looks like they read a study that doesn't condemn statins as teh evul, write a letter, and whine if it isn't published. Almost all of them are from Ravnskov too, who also takes the time to complain about how all five reviewers of a paper he submitted thought it unsuitable for publication.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 11:05 AM
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7. Scientific review: Bad. What me say: Good.
:crazy:
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 05:57 PM
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5. I'm going to start my own group called "Arsenic and Cyanide: The Fountain of Youth"
:P
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:22 PM
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6. Maybe you can play softball against the Miracle Mineral, 'drink bleach for your health' folks.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:51 AM
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8. +1
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 11:03 AM
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9. Mary Enig helped popularize this notion along with
Sally Fallon & The Weston A Price Foundation.

High cholesterol CAN KILL YOU! But they tout fat fat fat grease grease grease - the more the better. Idiots.

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