CNN: 1 in 10 Kids not properly vaccinated.

[Renew Deal]

There's a bunch of stats about the number of kids vaccinated.

This seems a little slanted in the favor of drug companies, but I think people will find it interesting. The video is a little slow to load.

http://cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/health/2011/10/03/am-cohen-childhood-vaccines.cnn.html

[kestrel91316]

1. Depending on the disease, that's dangerously low and might allow certain diseases

to propagate endlessly through a population, putting the unvaccinatable, the immunosuppressed, and inherently poor responders at risk.

It's the HERD HEALTH, stoopit!

[Renew Deal]

2. I agree

[HuckleB]

3. Here's a nice bit of added information, or at least I think so.

Childhood mortality and vaccines
http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2011/10/childhood-mortality-and-vaccines/

Thanks for sharing, btw!

:toast:

[mzmolly]

4. This study info includes new booster recommendations and gardasil data.

Regardless, 90% of children are fully, properly vaccinated. That's a far greater percentage than we had in previous decades. Compare the number of children to the 8 or 9 in 10 adults who are not properly vaccinated, and I think we'll have a more complete idea of where public health concerns should be focused.

[laconicsax]

5. If the 10% are in clusters, you have the same problem as with unvaccinated adults. n/t

[mzmolly]

6. Not that I agree with your point. But,

you haven't addressed mine. How is it effective public health policy, to ignore the fact that over 80 percent of adults are not fully vaccinated?

[laconicsax]

7. Yes or no: Clusters of unvaccinated children is dangerous.

Simple question, I honestly didn't expect you to dodge the issue.

As for adults, would you care to provide some evidence that policy is to actually ignore them? Every time I'm in a doctor's office, there's a nice chart with the recommended vaccination schedule for children and adults.

[mzmolly]

8. Yes or no: It's foolish to focus on so called "clusters"of children when the vast majority

of adults are not up to date on vaccinations. My assertion regarding adults, is not a dodge, it's common sense.

Here is "some evidence" that adults are not being effectively targeted by public health officials. Note that 98% of adults have NOT had the recommended Tdap booster. That's quite a "cluster".

http://www.nfid.org/pdf/publications/adultimmcta.pdf

Not to mention ...

"About 95 percent of the 50,000 Americans who die every year from vaccine-preventable diseases are adults.2"

Edited to add another informative link about the lack of vaccine compliance among adults.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/stats-surv/nis/downloads/nis-adult-summer-2007.pdf

[laconicsax]

9. Yes or no: Clusters of unvaccinated children is dangerous.

Simple question. I never said that it unvaccinated adults isn't a problem while you seem to be unwilling to say that unvaccinated children is a problem.

[mzmolly]

11. I'm not going to focus on a small minority of children, deeming them "dangerous"

when the vast majority of adults are largely ignored, sorry.

[laconicsax]

14. That's a false dichotomy.

There's no reason why both groups can't be addressed.

Refusing to address the problem of unvaccinated children because there are unvaccinated adults does nothing but distract from the problem of unvaccinated children.

[HuckleB]

15. I think you've discovered something.

Hmmm.

:rofl:

[laconicsax]

16. Nothing I didn't already know.

I guess we're only supposed to think of child welfare when it comes to the possibility of vaccine injury.

[mzmolly]

12. dup

delete

[HuckleB]

10. Some further interesting information.

JAMA: Vaccinating Kids Protects Unvaccinated Adults
http://scienceblogs.com/mikethemadbiologist/2010/03/jama_vaccinating_kids_protects.php

Adding link to actual JAMA publication: http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/303/10/943.full?home#JOC05017T1

[mzmolly]

13. About 95% of Americans who die every year from vaccine-preventable diseases are adults.

http://www.nfid.org/pdf/publications/adultimmcta.pdf

Actual quote - "About 95 percent of the 50,000 Americans who die every year from vaccine-preventable diseases are adults.2"

Children who are complying with vaccine mandates, at 90 percent and above, aren't doing enough to save adults, apparently. :eyes: