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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 06:54 PM
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Parents, don't be immune to vaccine truths
By Rahul Parikh
April 20, 2009
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You may be a parent reading this, unsure of what to believe when it comes to vaccines. I've had parents break down crying because they simply didn't know what to do. And you know what? You have every right to be confused. ... But slowly, and surely, we doctors have started to find our voice. ...

Despite all of this, though, you may still be confused and worried. That's because vaccine opponents keep shifting their hypothesis as to what actually causes autism.

In the early part of the decade, it was the MMR vaccine itself. But multiple studies demonstrated its safety. Then anti-vaccine folks moved to thimerosol, a preservative in vaccines. This too was discounted in many studies, including one early last year that showed that even though thimerosol is out of vaccines, autism rates continue to rise. Now the opponents are stuck somewhere between blaming other components of vaccines or the number of shots in the schedule. After we spend millions of your healthcare dollars to disprove these hypotheses, they'll move the target to something else.

And as they run out of ingredients to blame, they've turned their ire against pediatricians, painting them as some monolithic group of people who march to the beat of drug companies, both parties bent on making profits from vaccines at the expense of children.

Parikh, a Walnut Creek, Calif., physician, writes the Vital Signs medical column for Salon.com. He has no financial relationships to drug or vaccine manufacturers.

Source: L.A. Times
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 07:02 PM
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1. Uh-oh!
:popcorn:
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patriotvoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 07:11 PM
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2. The vaccine-autism CT: the only instance of mainstream CT exceeding sidestream CT.
:tinfoilhat::popcorn:
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 10:51 PM
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3. Hey, save some of that popcorn for me!
:popcorn: - mmmm, good - I love the smell of a good vaccine thread in the evening.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 04:27 AM
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4. Vaccine truths:
Edited on Wed Apr-22-09 04:28 AM by depakid
This may be what happens your you child because of your failure to protect them:


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And this will be what happenes to others, who never had the chance


There have been 172 confirmed cases of whooping cough in St George and Sutherland Shire in the first two months of this year.
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THE whooping cough epidemic is continuing to rage in St George and Sutherland Shire, with more cases reported to the area's Public Health Unit. The head of the unit, Professor Mark Ferson, said that while exact figures would not be available until this week, ``we are still getting lots of cases''.

NSW Health figures show there were 3356 confirmed cases of whooping cough in NSW in the first two months of this year. Of those, 172 were in St George and Sutherland Shire. A further 183 cases were recorded in the region in December alone.

Between January and mid-February, outbreaks were reported at 11 child-care centres and seven schools in the district, prompting the Public Health Unit to issue warnings to parents, teachers and child-care workers. NSW Health is calling on parents, grandparents and carers of children aged 12 months and under to have a free whooping cough booster shot.

It was introduced following the death of a month-old baby girl on the NSW North Coast this month, a week after she was admitted to hospital.

http://www.theleader.com.au/news/local/news/general/free-whooping-cough-boosters/1474489.aspx

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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 05:32 PM
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5. Llama Lad gets his first round tomorrow! n/t
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:41 PM
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6. Helpful tip:
Give him a dose of Tylenol BEFORE you get there! That helped our kids a lot.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 09:53 AM
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9. Thanks!
passed that on to my wife, who is bringing him in.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:30 PM
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7. Something that rarely gets mentioned: during the last great
Rubella outbreak c.1962 or so, there was a clear association between pregnant mothers being exposed to Rubella and their infants developing autism. In other words, one of the few ways we know to prevent autism is to prevent rubella by vaccinating children against it so they can't expose pregnant women to the wild virus!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 12:09 PM
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10. So vaccinating kids against rubella prevents autism?
Fetuses can have health issues from the pregnant woman getting some viruses indeed. This is another reason to vaccinate kids.

I wonder if any of the "vaccines lead to autism" people will reply here?
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 12:58 PM
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11. It's even more interesting than that.
Generation Rescue, the current nexus of all things anti-vax, commissioned a phone survey awhile back to do the "vaccinated vs. unvaccinated" comparison the anti-vax movement has desired for so long.

But wouldn't you know it, THEIR OWN DATA showed that kids were equally or even LESS likely to have autism if they had been FULLY vaccinated versus not vaccinated at all!

http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=567

Naturally when they reported the survey they had to spin the results, since it didn't even come close to supporting their beliefs.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 01:07 PM
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12. Gee, you mean these numbers...
Number of boys with Autism
Unvaccinated: 2% of total
Partially vaccinated: 7% of total
Fully vaccinated: 3%
Fully and Partially combined: 4%

Conclusion: you are 5% more likely to have autism if you have been partially vaccinated. If you are fully vaccinated your chance of being autistic is 1% greater than if you were unvaccinated
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Number of girls with Autism
Unvaccinated: 1% of total
Partially vaccinated: 2% of total
Fully vaccinated: 1%
Fully and Partially combined: 1%

Conclusion: you are 1% more likely to have autism if you have been partially vaccinated. If you are fully vaccinated your chance of being autistic is no greater than if you were unvaccinated.
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Number of boys and girls with Autism
Unvaccinated: 2% of total
Partially vaccinated: 4% of total
Fully vaccinated: 2%
Fully and Partially combined: 2%

Conclusion: you are 2% more likely to have autism if you have been partially vaccinated. If you are fully vaccinated your chance of being autistic is no greater than if you were unvaccinated.

Number of boys and girls with all ASD’s
Unvaccinated: 4% of total
Partially vaccinated: 6% of total
Fully vaccinated: 3%
Fully and Partially combined: 3%

Conclusion:you are 2% more likely to have an ASD if you have been partially vaccinated. If you are fully vaccinated your chance of being autistic is 1% less than if you were unvaccinated.

There’s no getting away from this. This is a disaster for Generation Rescue and the whole ‘vaccines cause autism’ debacle. Generation Rescue’s data indicates that you are ‘safer’ from autism if you fully vaccinate than partially vaccinate. It also indicates that across the spectrum of autism, you are only 1% more likely to be autistic if you have had any sort of vaccination as oppose to no vaccinations at all – and thats only if you are male. If you are a girl you chances of being on the spectrum are less if you have been vaccinated! Across both boys and girls, your chances of being on the spectrum are less if you have received all vaccinations.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:41 AM
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8. kick
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