Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Ride the Subways. All will be well...

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Science Donate to DU
 
NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:07 PM
Original message
Ride the Subways. All will be well...

We have already seen in section 4.5.2 that the attempt by Bethe and Peierls <495>at developing a simple theory of neutron—proton collision at first appeared to be successful. The formula for the elastic cross section (4.20) derived by these authors provided values in rough agreements with the corresponding experimental results for neutron energies of the order of a few MeV. But when the Columbia University group <596>measured the elastic cross section of slow neutrons against rotons, they found a value more than 14 times larger than the theoretical prediction. The explanation of this serious discrepancy was suggested by Wigner in a private conversation with Bethe who, years later <139> described as follows their conversation: “The discrepancy was explained to me by Wigner in a noisy subway between Columbia University and Penn Station. He said: ‘Well, why do you assume that the singlet state has the same binding energy as the triplet state? Let’s assume a different binding energy and all will be well’.”

This very simple remark was never published by Wigner. It was reported in the article by Bethe and Bacher “in the Reviews of Modern Physics <108>... Our paper was published in 1936. Having the singlet state of the deuteron higher than the triplet state, of course, would reintroduced a little bit of Heisenberg forces”.


This comes from a very interesting account by http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TVP-46WX8X2-14&_user=1082852&_coverDate=09%2F30%2F1984&_alid=844526030&_rdoc=21&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_cdi=5540&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_ct=39&_acct=C000051401&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=1082852&md5=16f39ba653876704fc170f51e2f99452">From the discovery of the neutron to the discovery of nuclear fission

Wigner and Breit played an important role in the development of fission physics by introducing the Breit-Wigner systematics for neutron resonances.

A fun and cool read, if you're into that sort of thing.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:10 PM
Response to Original message
1. I'll share it with someone who is. Thanks! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. My pleasure.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon May 06th 2024, 05:05 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Science Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC