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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:04 PM
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Mushrooms
I still miss having mushrooms picked in the woods. The flavor and texture is so good.

But I found crimini, oyster and morel mushrooms at the store an am fixing them pretty close to how we did when I was a kid. I'm using turkey bacon instead of salt pork to start, then added 3 large sliced onions and then the mushrooms, some water and s&p to taste.

A while back I did find mushrooms at the grocery that cooked up with the same flavor and okra like (slippery) texture as wild picked. But I didn't save the labels. One was a tiny white topped mushroom on a long skinny stalk in a cluster of many. The other was larger but brown tops also in a cluster. The grocer couldn't remember what they were either.

I like these cooked mushrooms just by themselves in a bowl with some rye bread on the side. It's old time comfort food for me.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:13 PM
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1. Enoki
Edited on Wed Apr-29-09 03:14 PM by Tangerine LaBamba
Those are the long skinny white mushrooms. Yummy................

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:25 PM
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2. That's them!
Thanks a lot for letting me know. The grocer said to just tell her the name and she'll order some for me. I can hardly wait to get more!

My mushrooms are almost finished cooking. The morels are getting very soft. But today's flavors are going to be pretty good.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:47 PM
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5. Morels ...........
The morning after my marriage to a college professor, we were awakened by singing under our bedroom window.

A bunch of his students had gone morel hunting, and showed up with homemade bread, butter, and a very big sack of morels.

We supplied the champagne, they sauteed the morels and toasted the bread, and that was one absolutely lovely way to start a marriage ......................
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 12:08 AM
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9. Thats a beautiful story, Tangelo!
:9
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 12:51 AM
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12. That is a glorious story!!! Thank you for sharing such a beautiful memory.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:36 PM
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3. Doggone it! Here's the other mushrooms but the web page appears to be in Cyrillic
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:45 PM
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4. Edible boletus?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:56 PM
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6. I'm afraid not....
I can find boletus here in Colorado up in the mountains. These little brown ones grow in a cluster of many sort of like the Enoki.

I was shocked the first time I found boletus while camping. And then I realized that our altitude replicates the higher latitudes where the boletus are found in Europe.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:53 PM
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7. Maybe they are either
Edited on Wed Apr-29-09 07:56 PM by hippywife
Hon-shimeji Mushrooms





or possibly Velvet Pioppini

http://www.gourmetmushroomsinc.com/fresh-varieties-pioppini.htm


:hi:

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:27 PM
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8. Both look like what I remember...
So I'll take all these names with me to the grocery and ask her to see if she can get any or all. I feel like I'm all set now. Thanks!
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:03 AM
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18. It looks like the first one also
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 12:00 PM
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20. Those sure look like the ones I got back then
I don't recall the name on the package as brown clamshell. but I can use all the names in my list so she can ask the supplier.

If I don't have luck at the local grocery I'm going to head over to the Southeast Asian markets in Denver. They'll surely have a number of varieties available.

Thanks for the help! A while back I hunted all around the net and couldn't find photos of the kind I bought. I'm so glad I posted about this.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 12:46 AM
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10. OMG!! Mushrooms GROWING on my dining room table!
They are Shiitakes. Two years ago.



I bought a growing block in my old stomping grounds, San Francisco.

The instructions say ya could do it in a plastic bag, but I went online & found a vinlyl doll case. (the store grows them under gloriou$$$ glass bells)



I harvested about 50 before I let it go dormant. Think I'll fire that baby up again soon.

I got it at the store, but they sell online. http://www.farwestfungi.com/

They sell the growing kit in Shiitake and Oyster. They sell a range of excellent dried mushrooms and fresh.




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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 12:50 AM
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11. I adore mushrooms. All mushrooms.
Even cultivated ones. During hunting season, DH gets chanterelles. Luckily, the deer are safe from him, but chanterelles are snapped up.

A couple of Easters ago, someone from here posted the most fabulous mushroom recipe that is to die for.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 12:55 AM
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13. Ya better give us the best remembrance ya have of the recipe!
I'm all inspired now to take my Shiitake 'farm' out of dormancy and fire her up!
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 01:02 AM
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14. This is for button mushrooms. Too die for.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:02 AM
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16. Oh... wowee! That does sound wonderful!
Ingredients are as my way of beef stroganoff, lacking only beef and sherry.
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:25 AM
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17. Years ago, the museum hosted The Stroganoff Exhibit. EDITED
Edited on Thu Apr-30-09 11:24 AM by wakemeupwhenitsover
As sort of a tie-in the paper's Food Day section spoke with the Baroness Stroganoff & she gave her recipe & talked about the history of Beef Stroganoff. I've been doing it her way ever since.

ETA that the Baroness' version of Beef Stroganoff is completely different than most ways I've seen.

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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 12:26 PM
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21. What is the Baroness' version?!?
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 12:50 PM
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22. She's pretty snotty, IMO, & it's a bit vague; just a 'pinch of this
and a bit of that' recipe, but I always have fun playing around with it. (I just scanned the article which I cut out and keep in my recipe file.)

THE BARONESS' RECIPE

Royal proclamation: Don't ruin the dish with expensive meat

The Barones Helene de Ludinghausen is the last in the line of the Stroganoff family, the nobles who built the Stroganoff Palace in St. Petersburg in the 18th century. She has a copy of her family's famous recipe, handwritten by her mother. There are no serving portions listed; everything is cooked to taste. She insists that the secret to making Stroganoff is using an inexpensive cut of meat like chuck roast, cooking it a long, long time — and adding two big spoonfuls of Dijon mustard.

Don't use an expensive cut of meat with this recipe, she says, because that makes it too rich. It's better to start cooking the night before. The meat is not marinated in her version. This recipe calls for regular cream or half-and-half, not sour cream.

In addition to the baroness's recipe, which she explains in the following interview, FOODday offers an alternate recipe for those who can't spare six hours spread over two days. It's made with filet mignon, beef tenderloin or New York steak cut into strips and quickly seared. It uses some sour cream along with some regular cream, which gives it the taste that says "stroganoff" to Americans.

The baroness lives with her mother (the last person born in the Stroganoff palace) in Paris. She is director of Yves St. Laurent couturier in Paris. FOODday interviewed her by phone at her home:

Q: Have you eaten Beef Stroganoff in the United States?
A: I've eaten it all over the world. It's never exactly the same way we do it, but it's always rather good. I find that people complicate it, instead of simplifying it. My mother's is the best in the world.

Ql What exactly is the origin of Beef Stroganoff?
A: In St. Petersburg, there was a gastronomical club, and the chefs each were invited to invent something one year in the late 1890s. The Stroganoff chef won the prize with this recipe.

Q: What are your favorite Russian foods?
At Four things I really like a lot: Siberian pelmeni — it's a bit like a gnocchi. Golubtsi (cabbage rolls) made with meat; piroshki; and ku-
libiaka (a classic layered savory pie) made with salmon.

Q: Beef Stroganoff is high in fat, isn't it?
A: I live in France, and I think this is very American, this total obsession with fat. You say you can never be too rich or too thin. I agree you can never be too rich, but you can be too thin! I think people shouldn't be enormously overweight. If you eat too much one day, be careful the next day. Don't eat enormous quantities. It's important for morale to have good things and to have a bit of wine with your food and a variety of things. French people eat everything, and they're not fat.

Q: Do you cook for your family and friends?
A: I have no idea how to cook. My mother used to cook. I hate cooking, bus I know how to tell people how to do things.

Q: How do you make Beef Stroganoff?
A: The night before serving, take a rump roast or a chuck roast and have it stripped into pieces that are the same width but half the length of a woman's baby finger.
Saute the beef strips in butter in a big saute pan. Add no seasoning. After the beef strips get golden brown, add flour until it makes a little sauce. Then add beef broth (either canned or homemade) until it makes a little gravy.

Let it cook for a while, then add 2 two big spoonfuls of Dijon mustard and lots and lots of fresh dill. Cook it three or four hours. If it too thick, add more beef broth.

Put it in the refrigerator overnight.

The next day, cook for several more hours until the meat cuts with a fork. Add cream or half-and-half at this point. Add mushrooms if you'd like — they're optional, but they add flavor and if you have more guests than you plan for, it adds to the quantity you can serve.

Never use a tomato sauce. Don't add onions. That's completely wrong. Add a little salt and pepper if you'd like. At the end of cooking, add some more fresh dill. If you don't have fresh dill, use dried.

Serve with white rice. Always serve with white rice; never use pasta or potatoes. Serve the stroganoff next to the white rice.

You won't need a knife, it will be so tender.

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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 03:54 PM
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23. Hahaha! I love this:
"I have no idea how to cook... I hate cooking, but I know how to tell people how to do things."
:rofl:

This one I'm suspicious about:

"In St. Petersburg, there was a gastronomical club, and the chefs each were invited to invent something one year in the late 1890s. The Stroganoff chef won the prize with this recipe."

I wonder that it would not have been rather an obvious peasant dish with a scrap of cheap meat, stretched perhaps with mushrooms and/or an onion, and some old/sour milk?

I've always figured the sherry I use is a bastardization, but I like it.

I aint gonna go rice... nuh-uh.

But I DO like her idea of DILL!


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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 05:09 PM
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25. The dill & the mustard really make the dish, I think.
And I loved that line too. :rofl:

Do you think that it was originally a peasant dish & the Stroganoff chef fancied it up & called it his own?
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 05:52 AM
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15. Oh gosh, we used to
go morel picking as kids. There were tons of them in the woods. Ahhh . . . and those tasty freshly picked mushrooms, how lovely.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:15 AM
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19. Had some Saturday night
wonderful things.

I have always wanted to raise them , but never really looked up the information. My interest was re-peaked when hubs said HE would like to raise them. Who knew. :)

Looks like it is on my list to research
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 04:01 PM
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24. There are bunches of sites about growing mushrooms.
They take some attention and time, but not a bunch of fancy stuff. A wood log with holes driiled in it, a proper shady spot in the yard, regular watering...

Go fer it.
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