I'm getting the strongest vibes that

[bobthedrummer]

something is going to happen in the next 5-7 days and that Cheney will "officially" become what he already is.

I just want to get that on record.

Sorry to be so cryptic, this is a very intense feeling though and I can't ignore it.

Anyone else picking up on these kind of vibes?

[NMDemDist2]

1. i got a really bad feeling when I heard Bushit was going to Rome

:shrug:

[bobthedrummer]

2. Yep.

[KittyWampus]

4. Yup.

[Pallas180]

3. Cheney's chart doesn't look like he's about to be resident,but

Cheney's chart









actually the eclipse falls in Cheney's 8th house, and his physical ruler Mercury is conjunct the South Node.

The eclipse is at 19 Aries which happens to be Cheney's Part of Treachery in the 8th house - apparently he's up to something nasty, nothing new about that, but his health doesn't look good.

[Pallas180]

5. Waaaal, if we look at the chart of the USA and dimbot a different way

using the Arabic parts for the day of the eclipse:

Well something is going on. The eclipse of April 8 at 19 Aries on the USA chart

We have T. Uranus square Uranus in the Gemini rising USA chart.

It has the Part of Fatality at 9 Virgo opp Uranus (making a T Square to the MC and the Uranus Rising Gemini Asc.

The Part of treachery at 16 Leo is opp Neptune

the Part of Life at 24 Gemini is opp PLUTO

The Part of Death at 19 Aries (dimbot's MC) in the USA chart is conjunct the Moon.
***

Wait, it gets better or worse, depending on your viewpoint.

Dimbot's chart has

Part of Life at 14 Leo opp Mars conj Vertex

Part of the Father conjunct Saturn

Part of Death opp the MC

Part of Danger opp Pluto

Part of Water Journeys (over water) conj Saturn

[bobthedrummer]

6. Thanks for your input Pallas180, my wife knows how to read these charts

but I don't. She has "gifts" that I don't understand, yet respect.

I started this thread because of the strength of the feelings that I've experienced-I do believe in a spiritual realm as well as respect what was/is termed ESP.

The US government did fund many programs to "research" such areas as telepathy, remote viewing and other subjects. So did the former USSR.

I'm also aware that some public and private sectors have utilized astrologers and psychics historically-I'm biased against the stereotypes of astrology (what's your sign, baby?) but have to admit that it can be a predictive resource too.

[Pallas180]

8. nice to have you on board Bob the Drummer - yes - certainly

more exists than what we can see, touch, hear, smell.

Actually EDP is a function of the human brain...rarely used by most
anymore...but still functioning...and able to be more fully developed if one wants to.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. I got the opositve feeliing or vibes`

For the first time since oh 2000 I felt an incredible peace... I cannot really understand it... and no I am not Catholic, or anything like that

It is like soemthing is about to happen that will put this to an end... peace

[Cleita]

9. I'm kind of with you.

I keep getting the feeling that the worst is going to be over with pretty soon. I don't think it will be painless, but at least, it's coming.

[autorank]

10. I agree with you. I feel a global movement coming on tied to

impending eco-catastrophes and war without end. It has to happen and it doesn't need to be a majority movement to start, just focused and loud. People need to get a grip and I think they're ready.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Yuo got it... I think it is one of those it has to happen

the darkest moment is before the sunrise... and I think we are at that darkest moment

Whether this is going to be peaceful or not, as in true peace that is antoher story... but there is this feeling of shall we say acceptance...

Thanks, you actualy put your finger on it

Speaking off events, let me add this to the discussion

April 05, 2005
CA Gov. 2006: "The Tipping Point" (LIVEblog Part 1)
Posted by Tim Tagaris
This is one thing I love about California, and San Francisco in particular, they don't play around. Bob Brigham is on-the-ground right now, phoning in updates from a large scale protest against California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. The event: Arnold's $1,000 to $100,000 a plate fundraiser. Bob referenced it in a post earlier today, here are the updates. It looks like Govenator's re-election will not be as smooth as many anticipate:

Bob says that there are easily 3000 people there right now, and they are all over the place. He counted at least 10 telvision news trucks, 30 photographers, and 2 helicopters constantly circling overhead. He said he couldn't tell what the plane flying above had on it's banner, because it was directly overhead (that made me laugh). He told me that this is nothing short of a rock concert atmosphere.

Bob just called me back to let me know that there is a group forming to the side that is going to attempt to block the Governor from even entering the event. Firefighters are all over the place with signs that read, "Not my neighborhood firehouse," and are holding professional looking signs with burning buildings demanding that local firehouses be kept open. Other signs read: "Money for schools not corporate interests"

Bob's quote to me was: "It looks like the tipping point. There is blood in the water. The race is going to be extremely competitive."


http://www.swingstateproject.com/2005/04/ca_gov_2006_the.html#more

[autorank]

13. Thanks for that from CA. I'm a CA ex-patriot.

Things have a tendency to gell there. They say that Arnnie can really draw a crowd. They forgot to say what kind. I can see protesting stroid-boy becomming the "new thing." Haha, Arnie, we hardly knew ye!

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Hey check this from the SF Gate

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/04/06/GOV.TMP

I'd say this is the tiping point... now don't expect the press to cover this, too busy with the Pope a thon, but they will be surprsied...

I smell the 1960s on steroids, no pun intended... and again a strange calm has filmed me for over a week now... strange and very unusual feeling... like it is time...

[autorank]

15. Now that's a taste of serenity! What a fool Arnie is! You do not attack

Nurses as a group. The teachers will clean his clock due to their organization; but Nurses, my God. They have to deal with doctors and the entire health care system. Lots of pent up rage.

When Prosecutor Fitzgerald is set loose by "management," the end is near. What the powers do not realize is that there will be a tidal wave demanding a real leader, not some hand picked Gerald Ford/Rockefeller combination.

There may still be time to save the species (DNA, that is, the only species).

:hi:

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. I suspect that leader will emerge from among US

Not the powers that be... maybe Kucinich, I don't know

[autorank]

18. That's exactly what I expect and want. Dean is an example.

Just came out of nowhere (no offense VT citizens) and shot to the top with that line "I'm representing the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party." Who will emerge? Interesting but when they do, they will have the power of committed party supporters. Looke what NRA does with 2.0 million members. Imaine us hihly motivated party with 20-30 million avid, core supporters of a real Democrat.

NEW LEADERS FOR A NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY

[KoKo]

11. I'd like to be optimistic, that's my nature. But, I see dark.....

confusion and false hopes.

Given that so much is topsey/turvey with this administration, as an "earth sign" it could be that they've totally thrown me and I no longer can be rational in judging my gut feelings.

So...I hope that folks who see "peace" or "calm" are correct. But, I thought long ago that the Earth and rational folks would rise up against these criminals. And, at every turn where mainstream Americans have had a chance to rise up, they haven't.

It's possible my dark view is just a result of my own hopes being dashed so often that I can't open a window for a little hope to shine in once again.

But, I don't see peace or calm... A long period of struggle, relentless
disinformation and then violence and dark is what I see before there can be light. But, as I said my "earth sign" thinking is all shot to hell at this point so I'm running on pessimism. :shrug:

[dbt]

17. Good point about the uprising taking so LONG!

But it occurs to me that the Earth moves on Her own timetable. A day and a thousand years may be the same thing to Her--but She moves terribly fast when She's ready, no?

As for mainstream Americans waking up: they have to be the most comfortable people in the world. Many, many, MANY layers of comfort must be broken through to get their attention. Given bu$h's "filter of the media," the process is going to take WAY longer than any of us would like, IMO.

I don't see a struggle as you describe it, but I am suddenly getting this long period of toil and drudgery, of life being hard.

:hi: from an Air sign.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. It has a name: Misery Index

We have not hit the magic nunmbers, for riots to occur, let alone good old fashioned violent revolutions. We are closer to the riots number, I think closer than moost of us realize, but not close enough YET.

[Desertrose]

20. I think we need to work on the LIGHT index...

seriously. It is IS easy to get caught up in the toil & drugery & dark life that I think we can all easily see happening...BUT...I think now is the crucial time to hold and project as much light as we possibly can.

I agree dbt, that the wake up call for the "comfortable" Americans is gonna take way too long & quite frankly, I'm tired of waiting for them. I want to create my own world and no way am I gonna create a world of darkness and misery.
Nope. NOT. No way. Ain't gonna do it. Just what TPTB want so they can feed off misery. Well, guess what. I refuse to f'ing cooperate. (Aries here, can ya tell LOL)

Tune out the news...make of this world what you will. I am not going to get sucked up into the negative world they are forcing on us.

(I am thinking maybe thats why I have been posting less here lately.....I miss some of our more uplifiting threads.)

I had a dream last nite where a few people got together and we raised such an incredble energy by conscious intention.The world was humming . It was so beautiful and empowering. It just made me more hopeful than I have been for quite awhile. Why wait for others to chenge the world, when we can do it ourselves by working on other levels? I miss some of our old discussions......

ok... my 2 cents :hi:
DR

[Cleita]

22. Yes, going to the brink of the cliff to bring about

a reformation isn't for me either. We need to do it now.

[Quakerfriend]

23. I'm with you, DR

Praying for a Velvet Revolution all the way. BTW, I've missed hearing your voice around here lately!

[dbt]

32. Yeah, DR. What Quakerfriend says!

:evilgrin:

[KoKo]

25. I agree with you and have visualized "white light" and done much that

I read about here. But, as a Virgo Earth Sign...I see the raping of the Earth, the stagnant polluted air, the oceans that smell of dead fish.

When I was growing up the Ocean air was fresh and invigorating. The water did not smell of rot and uncleaness.

I just returned from two weeks in Florida...and the ocean smelled of rotten fish and the air smelled like NYC or NJ.

I grew up on an island in the Lowcountry of SC and remember and know what the air smelled like before this. It wasn't rotten or unclean. The smells of the air then were differentiated...each flower had it's own fragrence one could savor, and the Seasons had a beautiful progression.

I only say this because...I'm very attuned to the Earth and remember what it was like before. And, I've lived in both NYC/NYS/Conn/NJ. Have smelled them all and visited their beaches. :shrug:

[Quakerfriend]

26. KoKo01, I too remember the wonderful smells of my

childhood.

I just keep trying to envision what will come after the destruction...a beautiful rebuilding and caring for the Earth.

I like to think about what is said in the Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield: That some day man will understand the importance of the energy that comes from the forest. It is predicted that we will remove parking lots, shopping malls and etc. and begin to restore the old forests and cherish them as places of great worth to the human condition.

[bobthedrummer]

21. Well, The War President and Pickles are on their way to Rome now.

They left rather early.

[Quakerfriend]

24. I imagine that the whole of Europe is fuming over

this 'show' that they are putting on.

Sort of reminds me of the family feud where the kid who was the nasty one and gave the parents a rough time shows up at the family funeral.

[catzies]

27. I feel it too bu tI'm chalking it up to the eclipse & the energy buildup

That's going to have a release. I have no specific vibes, but am expecting something dramatic.

I don't like Clinton being overseas with both Bushes. It's like he's their insurance. :scared:

But I see things like "I think I have hit the point of hysteria" on DU, and the sheer number and effort of the Schwarzenegger opposition in San Francisco last night, what scares me the most is if/when this "cold civil war" is going to turn hot.

[Pallas180]

28. "It's like he's their insurance. " - yeah. if anything happens to

their plane, he goes down too.

Maybe he'll be smart enough to part company with them.

Outrageous that they wouldn't take Jimmy Carter

[truthpusher]

29. I wouldn't discount the 'Vibe' thing....

...I woke up a few days before the big New York thing happened and told my wife that something very 'big' was going to happen. This feeling was very palpable. I understand where you are coming from.

[cliss]

30. I'm not getting any particular vibes,

other than a vague sense of foreboding, or gloom which has followed me for several years. I had an intense dream about flooding about 9 or 10 years ago, and have not been able to shake it.

Let's just say I spent the next 10 years trying to figure out what that was all about.

I've read many articles where people predicted the presidency would be cut short, due to a number of reasons. I can't think of any which actually predict success for Bush and Cheney (who would?).

An interesting factoid about the Pope: the funeral for the Pope will be held on Friday, April 8. There is supposedly going to be an eclipse at that time.

Someone mentioned that the Pope was born during an eclipse. There's a thread floating around about this. Very peculiar, to say the least.

I have to agree with DesertRose in that I'm through with waiting for the rest of the US to "wake up". My TV is gone forever (couldn't take watching the news). I don't care anymore if my fat, bloated meat-eating raccoon-breath boss ever wakes up to reality.

I know he's nervous about the economy. We had a huge falling out in November...he knew I was a Kerry supporter, and he was gloating for several days...finally I let him have it.

By the time these folks finally wake up, the world will be 90% destroyed.

I need to create my own reality. I'm just glad there are others like me.

[hvn_nbr_2]

31. Interesting - intense flooding dream about 10 years ago

I had an intense dream about flooding about 9 or 10 years ago

Very interesting. I also had an intense flooding dream, about 10 or 11 years ago. I don't remember a lot of details now, but it was intense and seemed very important. I did a lot of work with it because I was studying dreams in my consciousness studies M.A. program. I want to go back and look at class notes from the time, now that you got me thinking about it. It was a huge holocaust-type, major destruction flood, and it focussed on a baby deer caught in the flood, whose mother was killed by the flood.

[cliss]

35. Odd that you had one also, Hvn.

About the same time period, also. Mine was so realistic, that I was absolutely certain it was happening at the time. It was in the early spring, around March, very early in the morning (around 3:00 am, maybe 4).

I was sleeping in the living room in a sleeping bag (we had company). Suddenly, I could hear the splashing of water. It wasn't too loud.....but it was definitely seeping in through the sliding glass door. I sat up, rubbed my eyes.

I stood up and tried to understand what was happening. I looked down, and saw dirty brown, ice-cold water seeping in. I recall leaning down, and scooping up a handful of water. I tasted it. It tasted salt. That's when I knew that there had been a tsunami, and this was ocean water.

This dream was unique in my experience. I'd never experienced anything like it. Ordinary dreams are....well, ordinary. I can dream a million different soap-opera scenarios, and I'll wake up refreshed and forget about it. This one was not like that.

[bobthedrummer]

33. I sure don't want to feel those kind of vibes again.

I was wrong about them, but as some of you pointed out-there was a lot happening over in Rome.

Bush was up to no good.

[cliss]

34. Maybe not, B.

It could have been a premonition of something a little further down the road. Bush's trip to the Vatican could have been like a portal, or a catalyst of things to come.

Bush didn't have to go to Rome. We all have free will. But he just had to Carpe the Diem PR moment, so he went. It could be a series of events that have yet to unfold....

[hippiechick]

36. He met privately with some of the Pope-dudes, didn't he ?

(I called them Pope-dudes for lack of the correct term. Apologies if I offended anyone).

If he's meeting with anyone in private, he's up to no good.

:scared:

[loudsue]

37. Yep. I read on one of the other forums that he had met with all of the

American cardinals...the American pope-dudes who will be sequestered with the rest of the pope-dudes, voting for a new pope.

When I read about it on DU, I had remembered hearing it on the news shows, also.

You're absolutely correct: anytime he meets in "private", he's up to no good.

:kick: